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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: spectate Reply with quote

why is it disabled?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure, but it might be to prevent cheating and afk players. Or it could just be that there is a limit to the number of spectators. We'll see what the admins say.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't see how it could possibly prevent cheaters and it doesn't prevent afks. if someone wants to go afk they're going to go afk regardless of whether spectate is enabled or not. there's a limit of time you can stay idle before the server kicks you so really either way it wouldn't matter. secondly it makes it kinda hard to spectate a suspected hacker if you can't join spectator.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's a sniper that you just can't seem to find then spectating will let you find that person. That's really the only thing I can think of regarding cheating.

I wouldn't mind giving the option to spectate at times though. Would be nice to watch someone run around rather than stare at the respawn at those times when you're eating a sandwich or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when you die to anyone the camera swings in the direction you were shot from. you should be able to see where you were killed from. in that case the only thing you'd really have to worry about is someone ghosting but i really doubt anyone would go through the trouble.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was taken away to stop a spectator exploit that was giving us problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so is spectate disabled for everyone including admins? i don't know this exploit but seems it makes it rather hard to watch a suspected cheater now.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admins can spectate.

And what is the spectate exploit?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LJ wrote:
Admins can spectate.

And what is the spectate exploit?


Rather not give the info out. I don't think it would be a wise thing to do. STEAM had fixed it at one time thats why we turned it back on, but a few months ago they had a update which aloud it again, so we had to turn it back off once again. It's not a minor thing and would be considered a hack more then a exploit IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it that thing that allowed people in spectator to kill people somehow and crash the server? That was annoying...

Also, I think people were using it to bypass the spawn timer.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bypassing the spawn timer i believe is the exploit simple is talking about

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

powdermilkman wrote:
Bypassing the spawn timer i believe is the exploit simple is talking about

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Well thats one thing, but there is a spectater exploit.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

psyduck wrote:
when you die to anyone the camera swings in the direction you were shot from. you should be able to see where you were killed from. in that case the only thing you'd really have to worry about is someone ghosting but i really doubt anyone would go through the trouble.



Totally agree, it's a video game so if you have to join the spectator mode to find a sniper then you just need to quit playing. But yeah spec mode is a good way to catch cheaters.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well also sometimes i want to see if a player is cheating but i cant and if an admins there then yea, but i see the problems with the spectate exploit but hopefully we can find away to stop the exploit and still have the spectate mode!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinnder wrote:
psyduck wrote:
when you die to anyone the camera swings in the direction you were shot from. you should be able to see where you were killed from. in that case the only thing you'd really have to worry about is someone ghosting but i really doubt anyone would go through the trouble.



Totally agree, it's a video game so if you have to join the spectator mode to find a sniper then you just need to quit playing. But yeah spec mode is a good way to catch cheaters.


haha I guess I should quit playing. Thanks for the advice.
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