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psyduck Registered User
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject: spectate |
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why is it disabled? |
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Stevo Ville Supporter
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure, but it might be to prevent cheating and afk players. Or it could just be that there is a limit to the number of spectators. We'll see what the admins say. _________________
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psyduck Registered User
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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don't see how it could possibly prevent cheaters and it doesn't prevent afks. if someone wants to go afk they're going to go afk regardless of whether spectate is enabled or not. there's a limit of time you can stay idle before the server kicks you so really either way it wouldn't matter. secondly it makes it kinda hard to spectate a suspected hacker if you can't join spectator. |
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LJ Registered User
Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Location: Glace Bay, Nova Scotia Posts: 238
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:31 am Post subject: |
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If there's a sniper that you just can't seem to find then spectating will let you find that person. That's really the only thing I can think of regarding cheating.
I wouldn't mind giving the option to spectate at times though. Would be nice to watch someone run around rather than stare at the respawn at those times when you're eating a sandwich or something. |
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psyduck Registered User
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:59 am Post subject: |
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when you die to anyone the camera swings in the direction you were shot from. you should be able to see where you were killed from. in that case the only thing you'd really have to worry about is someone ghosting but i really doubt anyone would go through the trouble. |
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s.Squirrel The Nut Stalker
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: Oklahoma <eVa> Posts: 721
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: |
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It was taken away to stop a spectator exploit that was giving us problems. |
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psyduck Registered User
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:11 am Post subject: |
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so is spectate disabled for everyone including admins? i don't know this exploit but seems it makes it rather hard to watch a suspected cheater now. |
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LJ Registered User
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Admins can spectate.
And what is the spectate exploit? |
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Simpleman Server Admin
Joined: 30 Dec 2001 Location: Ceres,CA GUILD:<eVa> Posts: 3138
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: |
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LJ wrote: | Admins can spectate.
And what is the spectate exploit? |
Rather not give the info out. I don't think it would be a wise thing to do. STEAM had fixed it at one time thats why we turned it back on, but a few months ago they had a update which aloud it again, so we had to turn it back off once again. It's not a minor thing and would be considered a hack more then a exploit IMHO. _________________ <eVa>Simpleman-V$=<RIP> |
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Stevo Ville Supporter
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Is it that thing that allowed people in spectator to kill people somehow and crash the server? That was annoying...
Also, I think people were using it to bypass the spawn timer. _________________
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powdermilkman Diplomat
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Location: Good Ole Jackson, MS Posts: 1790
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Bypassing the spawn timer i believe is the exploit simple is talking about
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Simpleman Server Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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powdermilkman wrote: | Bypassing the spawn timer i believe is the exploit simple is talking about
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Well thats one thing, but there is a spectater exploit. _________________ <eVa>Simpleman-V$=<RIP> |
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Sinnder Registered User
Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Location: Ft Wayne, IN Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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psyduck wrote: | when you die to anyone the camera swings in the direction you were shot from. you should be able to see where you were killed from. in that case the only thing you'd really have to worry about is someone ghosting but i really doubt anyone would go through the trouble. |
Totally agree, it's a video game so if you have to join the spectator mode to find a sniper then you just need to quit playing. But yeah spec mode is a good way to catch cheaters. |
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Canadian Rifle Registered User
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Location: Winnipeg, MB Guild: TVR Posts: 800
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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well also sometimes i want to see if a player is cheating but i cant and if an admins there then yea, but i see the problems with the spectate exploit but hopefully we can find away to stop the exploit and still have the spectate mode! _________________
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LJ Registered User
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Sinnder wrote: | psyduck wrote: | when you die to anyone the camera swings in the direction you were shot from. you should be able to see where you were killed from. in that case the only thing you'd really have to worry about is someone ghosting but i really doubt anyone would go through the trouble. |
Totally agree, it's a video game so if you have to join the spectator mode to find a sniper then you just need to quit playing. But yeah spec mode is a good way to catch cheaters. |
haha I guess I should quit playing. Thanks for the advice. |
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