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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm a Maximum PC reader, and right now they recommend the Dell UltraSharp 2001fp. I tend to trust them, but unfortunately with Dell you can't really look at one before you buy it... unless they have a kiosk in your local mall.



They're not really up to date in their recomendation!!

They suggest the Ati9800pro as the best "budget" video card!!!! Wrong!!!!

The Nvidia 6600Gt is by far better AND cheaper than the 9800pro!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvilGenius wrote:
I'm a Maximum PC reader, and right now they recommend the Dell UltraSharp 2001fp. I tend to trust them, but unfortunately with Dell you can't really look at one before you buy it... unless they have a kiosk in your local mall.


That's the one I and some of my friends have. I play FPS, RTS, and MMORPG on mine and haven't had any problems.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squidly wrote:
They're not really up to date in their recomendation!!
They suggest the Ati9800pro as the best "budget" video card!!!! Wrong!!!!
The Nvidia 6600Gt is by far better AND cheaper than the 9800pro!!!


I wouldn't say they're as wrong as you make them sound... the real world benchmarks show the 9800 Pro is still beating the 6600GT some of the time. And, new card pricing fluctuates alot more. The last magazine released went to press sometime in December... was the 6600GT cheaper then?

Anyways, as far as a LCD goes, I would also see if you can't get a chance to look at a ViewSonic VP912B in person, as well as the Dell. Personally I'm looking to get a ViewSonic VP171B-2 as soon as I earn some cash.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could check out Ben Q . Its all Samsung hardware,thier priced ok .I`ve seen them besides Viewsonic, sony and hard to really tell the difference.Its all in the warranty now a days.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all TFTs ghost. Some Viewsonics don't ghost at all. Neither does the one posted below.

Dakon, check this one out, unless you already snapped one up. It is silver, but people that have it, say it is fantastic. 8ms response time too. They say the screen is made by Samsung. For $379, how can you go wrong?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=24-179-014&DEPA=1
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvilGenius wrote:
I wouldn't say they're as wrong as you make them sound... the real world benchmarks show the 9800 Pro is still beating the 6600GT some of the time. And, new card pricing fluctuates alot more. The last magazine released went to press sometime in December... was the 6600GT cheaper then?


Funny, that was exactly the same review I was looking at to say that the 6600GT outperformed the 9800pro!!! It is strange how thing can be differently interpreted, depending on which goggle you wear... (you with your ATI goggle and me with my NVIDIA's one!!!).

I still think that the 6600GT is a better card because it outperformed the 9800pro in most of the game tested by a HUGE 20fps. Where the 9800pro is beating the 6600Gt (and by only a few FPS), is at lower resolution, older game or more CPU demanding game like flight simulator 2004!!!

Anyway, for those who think about changing their video card soon, here's some very great link comparing mid to high-end video card performance!!!


http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/index.html

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041110/index.html

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041119/index.html

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/rv410/

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-11.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you get one with a high contrast ratio and research what they post as the refresh rate because some fudge it A LOT... So watch out for that, some numbers that line up in specs don't alwasy translate to what you get.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My viewsonic doesnt ghost and i have no dead pixels basicly it blow away my old viewsonic crt which was awsome it seriously bugs me to use my crt at this point cause the lcd is so much better. Also remeber that 19inch lcd is actuly bigger than 19inch crt as the full 19 inches is viewable.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After all this debate I decided on this

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/crtmonitors/proseries/p225fb/
I can get it for 500.00. I dont think LCD is right for me now due to the fps second capabilites of LCDs

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good choice. FYI, I do not have any ghosting on my LCD in DVI mode. I didn't notice it in VGA, but I wasn't looking for either. You may find down the road that you wished you had gotten one with DVI. There a good reason for having it on all the high-end graphics boards! Night and Day..

Oh, by the way, I just bought a 6600GT, they got them in stock at CompUSA, so I orderd it on-line today, gonna pick it up tomorrow. 199.
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