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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about time. Won may have been old, but atlest it worked, and if there was an update and you could not get it you could still play.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its all B/W issues.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

{db}Blown65 wrote:
It came with those hax he downloaded. You mean he hasnt shared them with you yet. Sux2bu




bringing us back to that hey bh share the wealth man i needz those haxage to pwnage you allage

but yeah when i first tried to get into steam i could get to the log on screen then steam froze then i restarted my comp and tried again it never connected to the logon then i exited the program and tried one final time (b4 i was going to post here ) and i waited i think about 10-15 mins b4 it decided it would work
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 0 errors or slowdownage.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Hawk wrote:
It's about time. Won may have been old, but atlest it worked, and if there was an update and you could not get it you could still play.


Sorry, but I cannot resist.

Several times did WON do the following:

Tell you that you need to update, then tell you that you're already updated. Repeat this process until they decide they've tortured you enough.

Not notify you of updates, or have no available mirrors in their update list. Several times, i had to browse the internet (and download off of fileplanet ) for new updates.

Would completely crash at random times, sometimes for days.

Flush_packet, anyone?

Would ignore all your filters, giving you well over 20,000 servers whenever you updated your server list.

Would sometimes not show servers in your favorites list, not allow you to search for servers in your favorite list, and would take servers off of your favorites list for no reason.

Would not allow you to search for a server by IP if you had recently searched for the server or added it to your favorites. Recently sometimes meaning more than a week.

Would sometimes completely reset your controls and/or mouse sensitivity.

Disable your mouse in-game (even if it was ON in your control settings).

Would rewrite binds/scripts.

Would tell you that your ID is already in use (even if it wasn't), and wouldn't allow you to play until they decided to auth you again.

Kick you for random reasons.

Freeze computers, or exit to desktop.

Did not recognize console commands it was given.

Had some serious problems with LAN games at times.

And would sometimes delete or alter some default halflife files, forcing you to find a place that hosted default files, or reinstall.

Steam does have its bad spots, but so far I'm liking it much more than won.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my own experience I have not had any of those problems other than favorite list resets and flush entity packet (not that it doesn't happen in Steam, too). Also, in my experience, Steam has annoyed me a few times, but has worked great overall. It is getting more and more stable now.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bright Red Nipples wrote:
Black Hawk wrote:
I can not even log in, it was telling me there was a problem with my password, when I told it to send it to me, it said there is no account for my email


I got the same exact message Black Hawk. Just check it in the morning.

Mine just decided it was time to work. I have no idea why


Same thing here after I got out for dinner hours later boom it was fine gg steam
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of what you just described VP was probably an admin having fun with you
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Violent Pacifist wrote:
Black Hawk wrote:
It's about time. Won may have been old, but atlest it worked, and if there was an update and you could not get it you could still play.


Sorry, but I cannot resist.

Several times did WON do the following:

Tell you that you need to update, then tell you that you're already updated. Repeat this process until they decide they've tortured you enough.

Not notify you of updates, or have no available mirrors in their update list. Several times, i had to browse the internet (and download off of fileplanet ) for new updates.

Would completely crash at random times, sometimes for days.

Flush_packet, anyone?

Would ignore all your filters, giving you well over 20,000 servers whenever you updated your server list.

Would sometimes not show servers in your favorites list, not allow you to search for servers in your favorite list, and would take servers off of your favorites list for no reason.

Would not allow you to search for a server by IP if you had recently searched for the server or added it to your favorites. Recently sometimes meaning more than a week.

Would sometimes completely reset your controls and/or mouse sensitivity.

Disable your mouse in-game (even if it was ON in your control settings).

Would rewrite binds/scripts.

Would tell you that your ID is already in use (even if it wasn't), and wouldn't allow you to play until they decided to auth you again.

Kick you for random reasons.

Freeze computers, or exit to desktop.

Did not recognize console commands it was given.

Had some serious problems with LAN games at times.

And would sometimes delete or alter some default halflife files, forcing you to find a place that hosted default files, or reinstall.

Steam does have its bad spots, but so far I'm liking it much more than won.


Of the 3 yrs playing the only problem I ever had with won was 1)updates which was very seldom. 2)thier system went down 2 times that I can remember. Other than that, I had zero of those issues you mentioned.


On the other hand, we have steam. The system that screws up the updates and you end up downloading it over and over. It locks you out of games like you mentioned won doing. Happened to me and deathbringer many many times. I get dumped to desktop in NS, and dod occasionally. TFC and TS seem to work better.

In the last 3 months Ive had more issues with steam than the entire time I had won.


#Fist Steam.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I guess I already did my steam time with won then I have had every single problem I posted happen to me with won, several of them more than once -- others, hundreds...besides the initial setup, steam has been like a savior to me. I think my 1 week of pain and misery has been more than made up for by the months of good gaming.

#angel Steam <3
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had problems too. I have learned a little trick for when it wants you to "re-authenticate". For some reason every time (about once every 3 months) it has asked me to re-enter my password it won't recognize my password properly, although it is the correct one I am using.

So, what I do is rename the ClientRegistry.blob file then start Steam and let it "update". After it finishes it asks me to log in again. At that point I bail out, rename the new ClientRegistry.blob and move the old one back (i.e. rename the original back to ClientRegistry.blob)

After that, when you restart, it will do a small update, but will not ask for your password. Cool huh?

By the way, I make a copy of my current ClientRegistry.blob every time I start Steam. I keep about the last 30 of them [using a batch file]. I make a separate backup of the file about once a month that I never delete. It has saved my "posterior" on several occasions.

P.S. If you ever get an error where Steam crashes immediately every time you start it up, try renaming (or deleting if you are brave) all of the *.log files in the "C:\Program Files\Steam" directory (or wherever you have Steam installed). It does wonders to cure some problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the entire system blows...play AAO instead..its free and it kicks the hell out of any valve software....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I still can't log in to steam. Same password error that BH and others reported.
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