Class Restriction

Kapusta · Registered User Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 8

example... Flash... all the team is MG42's or snipers... its ridiculous... and the allies are all snipers in cheap camping spots in buildings... flash would be fun if the Mg's were banned and the rifles... the only guns that should be allowed during flash should be the following: k43, mp40, mp44 (Stg44), StenMark, and the Bren... then it would be fun...

Speaker's Xeno · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:28 pm Post subject:

class restrictions would only make the game more like cs IMHO

if u cant get ur class some ppl will follow those of that class around and then block a doorway or something so that the other person dies then they will take the gun and use it themselves

it would make it less fun. IMV

think of it this way some ppl on ff servers wit class restrictions will shot their own teammate to get they gun they want

restrictions will not make u a better player it will only make u more of an ass

:steps down and ducks under shockys bottle: ha ha u missed me

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Violent Pacifist · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:55 pm Post subject:

Speaker's Xeno · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:40 am Post subject:

The Nanite · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:36 am Post subject:

Contrary to your belief speaker there is always at least one admin online. Add them ALL to your STEAM friends to find them when you need them/when STEAM friends actually works.
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Violent Pacifist · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject:

I just came off a game of avalanche that had the very problem we're discussing here. I switched to axis to see how many people were playing mg, and took a screenshot for evidence plus to make sure I didn't miscount. In total, there were:

2 Grenadiers

1 Sturmtruppe

1 Stosstruppe

1 Unteroffizier

2 Scharfschutze

5 MG42-Schutze

And another mg42 (totaling 6) had left just before I took my little picture. There have been cases where 5-6 people played the same class without a problem, but before anyone says anything, let's remember some things about the mg42.

1) It has the accuracy (and in some cases better) of an smg even when UNDEPLOYED. Going rambo and getting headshots with this thing is what half of their team was doing.

2) It has extreme power. Duh. It's a machine gun. The mg42 fires two bullets per shot and will tear through you like a good ol' shovel hitting Blue (who is also old). When you have to worry about killing 5 mg's in various places before you can advance a step, there is a serious problem.

3) The mg42 can shoot through almost every single wall in dod. I've been killed through the walls with this gun so many times I've lost count. You can't shoot at them, hide behind a corner and try again. They'll simply shoot the wall and WHOOPS! You were just killed by the homosexual gun of the year.

No other machine gun can do these things (as far as I'm aware). Have you noticed how almost no one plays as the second german machine gun? Or how the allied machine gunners numbers seem so few in comparison to the mg42? This gun is like a pestilence. Raining down on our good servers, it does not relent. The disturbance in the masses has increased, and the people are becoming volatile.

However, my good friends, we can stop this evil right here and now! We have the power to end this senselessness, and give birth to a new era! An era without the overpopulation of MG42's! An era that sees no end, and knows no end! My friends, if we could only restrict these machine guns to a few, such an era would occur in our gloomy world of sorrow and pain!

So umm...yeah..I'm not asking for a restriction of ALL the classes...just the overlypowered gay ones *cough*MG42-Schutze and maybe the sniper *cough*

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SilverOne · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject:

Ok

After checking some of the other popular public servers out there im going to try some limits on tv4 to see how they work.

Everything is unlimited except.

Allies:

30 cal = 3
Spring = 3

Axis:

fg42s = 3 (Para Weapon)
mg34 = 1
mg42 = 2
(equals out to the same as allies)
scoped = 3

British : (notice: Just updated this post on 3/13, included British limits)

3 snipers
3 mgs

This is NOT set in stone and its only on TV4. Just trying it out. Give me feedback as the days go on.

pat sajak · Registered User Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 25

silverone the man of the year? he very well may be, certainly a god among men.

Clay Pigeon · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject:

Please do not limit the mg 34 to 1. It is the only axis mg that does not have a lame overheating problem. Personally I am against class limits as tpf'ers will pick what class best helps the team out, and a handful of llamas or n00bs will ruin it for everyone.

Maybe I am the only one that likes to be an unteroffizier on flash...

Ten · Registered User Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 636

SilverOne, you are a true 21st century Jesus. Thanks dood.

Jfet Zener · Server Admin Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 3353

Shovel me Silly · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject:

I don't even believe in Jebus!

Dann0 · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject:

This conversation just seems to happen once in while.. Heres why there are no class restrictions.

Tried them once, no matter how the limits were set somebody complained about to much or not enough..

Heck, I even got call a Communist when I did set restrictions.

There has been a lot less complaining without Class restrictions so thats the way it stays. Heck, I only see two people saying they like them allready. BUT i am sure they will change there mind as soon as the class they want is filled up and they cant choose there favorite.. Then you will see a post against class limits..

IT HAPPENS! I Have been through this many times allready.

Silverone, I suggest keeping the class limits off..

Violent Pacifist · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:49 pm Post subject:

Ten · Registered User Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 636

Well, maybe I'm biased er something but I think class restrictions should be implemented on every server.

Every server that I used to play at regularly before TheVille had class restrictions, I found them to produce the best, most balanced games. There just don't need to be 4 snipers per team, that's insane. One server that I played at allows ONE Axis sniper and MG42 on Charlie and ONE sniper on Allies. Best Charlie rounds, you wouldn't believe it.

Sure there are some skewed games (read: 6 snipers vs 6 sniper camp-outs) at the Ville, but the great community and administration eclipses that aspect exponentially. Regulars will not leave, noobs who've never heard of class restrictions (who get really irritated: "WHY CAN'T I BUY MG!!!???") will get used to it.