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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:37 pm    Post subject: FPS IN DOD | 
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				Ok I have done everything posible to try and bring up my FPS best I am getting is 10-30 unless I'm in a corner all by myself  and then I can get upwards of 50. My fps runs in the 60-80's in TFC just wondering why such a difference. Anyways just wanted to see if anyone had any imput.
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Make sure that the AGP Aperture Size (MB) - Default is 64. (I have 512 so I set mine at 256) if you notice anything strange then tone it down to 128.
 
 
I can play BF1942 Desert Combat on the map Urban Siege at 800x600x32 (high settings now with this set) on servers with 40 players at a stable 45fps(much higher on less occupied servers)
 
 
This is the amount of main memory that is allocated to the AGP device. Using this function the AGP card can process data from the main memory itself, instead of onboard memory. It is important to select the AGP Aperture Size wisely because too much will cause lack of memory for other operations and too little will give low graphic performance. The AGP aperture size should be set to half, or a quarter of your system memory. So, if you have 256MB system memory you should set your AGP aperture size to either 128MB or 64MB. _________________ http://www.nosmacktards.com | 
			 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				If I only had a AGP card mines pci ATI Radeon 7200   _________________ <eVa>Simpleman-V$=<RIP> | 
			 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				No, it's AGP! I know this because I use a Radeon 7200 64 Meg card. You need to find this out for sure. Because if it is and you have it in a PCI slot instead of the AGP slot then there is your problem.
 
 
Here are my Specs
 
 
----EASy System Summary--------------------------------------
 
 
     Video Card                    : RADEON 7200 SERIES
 
     Video Driver                  : ati2dvag.dll
 
     Driver Version                : 6.14.10.6414
 
 
     Sound Card                    : Creative EMU10K1 Audio Processor (WDM)
 
     Sound Driver                  : ctaud2k.sys
 
     Driver Version                : 5.12.01.0252
 
 
     DirectX                       : DirectX 8.1
 
     Operating System                Windows XP Service Pack 1 5.1.2600
 
 
----EASy System Output---------------------------------------
 
 
     Computer Name                 : S
 
 
CPU Info
 
 
     CPU Count                     : 1
 
     CPU Type                      : 1390 MHz GenuineIntel Pentium IV
 
                                     15 0 7
 
 
     RAM                           : 512 MB Total
 
                                     408 MB Free
 
     Virtual RAM                   : 1250 MB Total
 
                                     1122 MB Free
 
 
     Operating System              : Windows XP Service Pack 1 5.1.2600
 
 
 
     Default Browser               : Internet Explorer
 
     Version                       : 6.0.2800.1106
 
 
     Temp Directory                : C:\DOCUME~1\Steve\LOCALS~1\Temp\
 
     Size                          : 8 MB
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----Display Info--------------------------------------------
 
 
     Number of Displays            : 1
 
 
     Current Mode (Primary)        : 1024x768 32
 
 
Primary display device
 
 
     Description                   : RADEON 7200 SERIES
 
     Manufacturer                  : ATI Technologies Inc.
 
     Video Memory                  : 64 MB
 
 
     Main Driver                   : ati2dvag.dll
 
     Version                       : 6.14.10.6414
 
     
 
 
Supported Display Modes
 
 
              |  16  |  256  | 16 bits| 24 bits| 32 bits
 
     ---------------------------------------------------
 
     640 x 480|  *   |   *   |    *   |       |   *  
 
     800 x 600|  *   |   *   |    *   |       |   *  
 
     1024x 768|      |   *   |    *   |       |   *  
 
     1152x 864|      |   *   |    *   |       |   *  
 
     1280x1024|      |   *   |    *   |       |   *  
 
     1600x1200|      |       |        |       |      
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----Sound, Video and Game Controllers-----------------------
 
 
     Description                   : Creative EMU10K1 Audio Processor (WDM)
 
     Manufacturer                  : Creative Technology, Ltd.
 
 
     Main Driver                   : ctaud2k.sys
 
     Version                       : 5.12.01.0252
 
 
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----Direct X------------------------------------------------
 
 
DirectX Info
 
     Version                       : DirectX 8.1
 
 
DirectDraw Info
 
     Version                       : 5.01.2600.1106
 
     Certified                     : Not certified
 
 
DirectSound Info
 
     Version                       : 5.01.2600.0000
 
     Certified                     : Certified
 
 
DirectPlay Info
 
     Version                       : 5.00.2134.0001
 
 
DirectInput Info
 
     Version                       : 5.01.2600.1106
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----Drive Information---------------------------------------
 
 
----CDRom Info----------------------------------------------
 
 
 
Drive Letter A
 
     Volume Name                   : 
 
     Type                          : Floppy
 
     File System                   : 
 
     Total Space                   : 0.00 KB
 
     Free Space                    : 0.00 KB
 
 
Drive Letter C
 
     Volume Name                   : DSK1_VOL1
 
     Type                          : Fixed
 
     File System                   : NTFS
 
     Total Space                   : 76.33 GB
 
     Free Space                    : 69.24 GB
 
 
Drive Letter D
 
     Volume Name                   : BF1942_2
 
     Type                          : CDRom
 
     File System                   : CDFS
 
     Total Space                   : 422.28 MB
 
     Free Space                    : 0.00 KB
 
 
Drive Letter E
 
     Volume Name                   : 
 
     Type                          : CDRom
 
     File System                   : 
 
     Total Space                   : 0.00 KB
 
     Free Space                    : 0.00 KB
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----Monitor Information-------------------------------------
 
 
Primary monitor
 
 
     Description                   : Plug and Play Monitor
 
     Manufacturer                  : Microsoft
 
     Max. Resolution               : 1600,1200
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----Network Information-------------------------------------
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----Input Device Information--------------------------------
 
 
Mouse Information
 
 
     Description                   : Logitech-compatible Mouse PS/2
 
 
 
Keyboard Information
 
 
     Description                   : IBM enhanced (101- or 102-key)
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----Modem Information---------------------------------------
 
 
     Description                   : 
 
     Driver                        : 
 
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
----OpenGL Information--------------------------------
 
 
OpenGL Info
 
 
     Version                       : 5.1
 
 
 
 
 	  | Simpleman wrote: | 	 		  If I only had a AGP card mines pci ATI Radeon 7200   | 	 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | SpeCies wrote: | 	 		  Make sure that the AGP Aperture Size (MB) - Default is 64. (I have 512 so I set mine at 256) if you notice anything strange then tone it down to 128.
 
 
I can play BF1942 Desert Combat on the map Urban Siege at 800x600x32 (high settings now with this set) on servers with 40 players at a stable 45fps(much higher on less occupied servers)
 
 
This is the amount of main memory that is allocated to the AGP device. Using this function the AGP card can process data from the main memory itself, instead of onboard memory. It is important to select the AGP Aperture Size wisely because too much will cause lack of memory for other operations and too little will give low graphic performance. The AGP aperture size should be set to half, or a quarter of your system memory. So, if you have 256MB system memory you should set your AGP aperture size to either 128MB or 64MB. | 	  
 
 
Now where is this setting? I have a 512 memory thing and I have never changed that setting. Sometimes I do get a really choppy picture like whena couple grenades go off. If it is default on my system should I change it to the 256 like you? _________________
  
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I don't think it's possible to screw up and put a agp card into a pci slot.  They do still make pci cards, less performance but cheaper in price.   _________________ *********   *********
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:39 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Metal KMKZ wrote: | 	 		  I don't think it's possible to screw up and put a agp card into a pci slot.  They do still make pci cards, less performance but cheaper in price.   | 	  
 
 
fer shizzle...
 
 
agp slots are set way farther back than a pci. my card is pci since it was dirt cheap and my old mobo dind't ahve an agp. now i got an agp slot i need to upgrade i suppose. 
 
 
and if i hear anyone else complain about 50 fps.. pfft. 60 is my max usually and thats when i stare at walls. _________________
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		Simpleman Server Admin
  
  
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I know mines PCI it's the 32 MB version my old MOBO had no AGP slot   _________________ <eVa>Simpleman-V$=<RIP> | 
			 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I used to have to change my settings all the time.  I forgot how to do all that though.  I was having problems with smoke in game.  Whenever there was smoke my fps was dropping to 6.  I bought a new vid card, 9800pro, and maxed all my settings.  It runs at 99fps, was max in game, at all times.  I set my max value down to 60fps since I don't see a difference over that anyways.  Now I run at a constant 60 without any variance.
 
 
Long story short, I don't remember how to change settings but I will look into it and post.  It's just been a while since I had to. _________________
  
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Bright Red Nipples wrote: | 	 		  I used to have to change my settings all the time.  I forgot how to do all that though.  I was having problems with smoke in game.  Whenever there was smoke my fps was dropping to 6.  I bought a new vid card, 9800pro, and maxed all my settings.  It runs at 99fps, was max in game, at all times.  I set my max value down to 60fps since I don't see a difference over that anyways.  Now I run at a constant 60 without any variance.
 
 
Long story short, I don't remember how to change settings but I will look into it and post.  It's just been a while since I had to. | 	  
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				If you have a few dollars(< $100), you can pick up a decent AGP ati or geforce card.  Most of the older ones like the ati 9200 or gforce fx5600 can be had for $40 - $80. 
 
 
check out pricewatch
 
 
What os are you running? I couldn't break 60fps with win2k, but can easily break 180 on tfc and 90 on dod with win xp and a radeon 8500 128M.
 
 
 
I can send  you my configs if you want, one thing is to make sure you set developer 1 in your config and set your your monitor refresh at 100hz or higher and you can break the 100fps barrier(in tfc at least). not sure if this will help you with your current card though | 
			 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:59 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The AGP aparture thing (however its spelled) is inside the intel mobo (well its what i got so its all i know) at start of comp u hid del and it brings up the settings. Just look through there and u will find it eventually. _________________
  
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:02 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Strongbad wrote: | 	 		  If you have a few dollars(< $100), you can pick up a decent AGP ati or geforce card.  Most of the older ones like the ati 9200 or gforce fx5600 can be had for $40 - $80. 
 
 
check out pricewatch
 
 
What os are you running? I couldn't break 60fps with win2k, but can easily break 180 on tfc and 90 on dod with win xp and a radeon 8500 128M.
 
 
 
I can send  you my configs if you want, one thing is to make sure you set developer 1 in your config and set your your monitor refresh at 100hz or higher and you can break the 100fps barrier(in tfc at least). not sure if this will help you with your current card though | 	  
 
 
Yeah I can break 100fps in TFC but DOD I can't even break 30    
 
 
 
I'm running WinXP Home
 
 
P4 1.8
 
512 megs of ram
 
and a crappy PCI card   
 
 
 
I just need to break down and go and get a new video card .   _________________ <eVa>Simpleman-V$=<RIP> | 
			 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Reboot your computer and hold down your Delete key until your Bios screen appears. Look for the AGP Aperture Setting. If the Delete key isn't the one that accesses the Bios then check your MB manual it's in there.
 
 
Reguardless if your MB is old or not, manufacturers update their Bios's everyday to keep up with todays technology. My motherboard is 3 years old and all I do is flash my bios when ever they release a new one and sometimes it makes a difference.
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | The AGP aparture thing (however its spelled) is inside the intel mobo (well its what i got so its all i know) at start of comp u hid del and it brings up the settings. Just look through there and u will find it eventually | 	  
 
Once you get into your cmos settings, look for Advanced Chipset Settings _________________ *********   *********
 
 
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