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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:14 pm    Post subject: I'm Sick Of It Reply with quote

Everyday I turn on the national news and everyday a couple more U.S soldiers die for this country. And all the press seems to care about is the on going debate wether we had motive or not to invade Iraq. No names, no pictures, no ranks given. These men died for this country and the freedom of Iraqies and somehow this gets lost in all the political bullshit. If this hasn't sunken into your head just take a minute and think of death...your gone, no more friends, no more family, no more living out your life to have a family and kids and a house. Most of these soldiers are young and haven't had nearly enough of lifes experiences and they gave their all for a cause. Not because it is right or wrong but because they are doing their job.

I understand Names and pics of these soldiers can't be made available right away, but the press should cover this when the info becomes available. These soldiers died heros, at least give them the respect they deserve.

I shouldn't have to get mad about this shit, it seems like it would be common sense.

Someone really should come out with an un-bias news program that just covers the story for what it is without puting their own political spin on it. I think it would do better then alot of people might think.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed theres always a follow up when other people are killed after the familiy is notified.All this crap is to keep oil prices low You take your chances when you join the armed forces but respect is due and should be shown.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.All this crap is to keep oil prices low


they aren't doing a good job then
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you know why they're over there dying constantly? Everyday?

His name is George W Bush and his crooked cronies. He's just playing a game of chess for the oil and all the soldiers are being thrown away just as easily as the trucks and tanks and bombs, don't let his crocodile tears fool you, That's what the administration thinks they're there for. Like Vietnam it's become a quagmire. A Soldier Signed up to protect his country with his life, what the hell are they doing dying for some dusty ass crap country and their oil.

I have one of my best friends I've known for 14 years over there right now. He tells me about how he's been shot at by random hidden people and he wishes they would just blow everything up and kill everyone there and just take the oil so Bush would be happy and send them home.

To further display Bush's Megaton Incompetance here's a list in the form of a resume starting before the day he stole the election, that should remind you of just why so many people hate him...and to anyone who still thinks he's A-OK and doing a good job....WHAT the F*CK?!


Bush Resume

Past Work Experience:

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I produced a Hollywood slasher B
movie. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; the
company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the
Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using
taxpayer money.

With my father's help and name, I was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments as Governor
I changed pollution laws in favor of the power and oil companies and
made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

I replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city
in America. I cut taxes and bankrupted Texas government to the tune of
billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in
American history.

I became U.S. President after losing the popular vote by over
500,000 votes with the help of major Enron money and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as President
I attacked and overtook two countries.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S.
Treasury. I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S.
history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in
any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of
the U.S. stock market.

My record for environmental issues is the least of my concerns. I
am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
record.

I set the the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one
year period.

After taking-off the entire month of August, I then presided over
the worst security failure in U.S. history.I am supporting development
of a "Tactical Bunker Buster" nuke, a WMD.

I am getting our troops killed, under the lie of Saddam's
procurement of Yellow Cake Nuke WMD components, then blaming the lie on
our British friends.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S.
president. In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost
their jobs and that trend continues every month.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month
period. I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
president in U.S. history.

I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any
president since the advent of television.

I signed more laws and executive orders effectively amending or
ignoring the Constitution than any president in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and
refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was
revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and
refused to use national reserves as past presidents have done.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut
in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in war
time.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million
people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the
history of mankind.

I've dissolved more international treaties than any president in
U.S. history.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of
any in U.S. history.

I' m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history.

My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil
tanker named after her.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have almost all 50
states of the Union simultaneously suffer massive financial crisis.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any
market in any country in history.

I am the first president in U.S. history to order a pre-emptive
attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so
against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

I created the largest government department bureaucracy in the
history of the United States.

I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending
increases, more than any president in history.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United
Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United
Nations remove the U.S. from the Elections Monitoring Board.

I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S.
history.

I rendered the entire United Nations viewpoints irrelevant. I
withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow
inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners of war" (detainees) and thereby
have refused to abide by the Geneva Conventions.

I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election). I am the all-time U.S. and
world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best
friends, (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation)
presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history. My
political party used the Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election
decision.

I have spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in
U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade
Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most
resented country in the world, possibly the largest failure of diplomacy
in World history.

I am actively working on a policy of "disengagement" creating the
most hostile of Israel-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
security.

I am the first U.S. president in history to have the people of
South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than by their immediate
neighbor, North Korea.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be
awarded government contracts.

I set an all-time record for the number of administration
appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling their huge personal
investments in corporations bidding for U.S. contracts.

I failed to fulfill my pledge to capture Osama Bin Laden, dead or
alive. I failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the
leaders of our country at the U.S. Capitol Building. Even after 18
months I have no leads and no credible suspects.

In the past 18 months following the World Trade Center attack I
have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest
security failure in the history of the United States.

I removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any
president in U.S. history.

In a little over two years, I created the most divided country in
decades, possibly the most divided since the Civil War.

I entered my office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and
have turned every single economic category downward all in less than two
years.



Records and References:

I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine. My
Texas driving record has been erased and is not available.

I was AWOL from the National Guard.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about
drug use. All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my
father's library, sealed, and unavailable for public view. All records
of SEC investigations into insider trading or bankrupt companies
are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or
minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding
public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
review.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in
American history


once every two weeks throughout the tenure in office i do believe was the average
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Yeah, I feel the same way! Here is a pic of our militarys answer to Value Jet! Damn if I would land the plane! I would have a bullseye out in the yard of the camp and toss em the hell out without a chute while that song "I think I can fly" by Seal plays
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



You said a mouthful Y.P.A.W.O.M





YourPowersAreWeakOldMan wrote:
And you know why they're over there dying constantly? Everyday?

His name is George W Bush and his crooked cronies. He's just playing a game of chess for the oil and all the soldiers are being thrown away just as easily as the trucks and tanks and bombs, don't let his crocodile tears fool you, That's what the administration thinks they're there for. Like Vietnam it's become a quagmire. A Soldier Signed up to protect his country with his life, what the hell are they doing dying for some dusty ass crap country and their oil.

I have one of my best friends I've known for 14 years over there right now. He tells me about how he's been shot at by random hidden people and he wishes they would just blow everything up and kill everyone there and just take the oil so Bush would be happy and send them home.

To further display Bush's Megaton Incompetance here's a list in the form of a resume starting before the day he stole the election, that should remind you of just why so many people hate him...and to anyone who still thinks he's A-OK and doing a good job....WHAT the F*CK?!


Bush Resume

Past Work Experience:

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I produced a Hollywood slasher B
movie. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; the
company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the
Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using
taxpayer money.

With my father's help and name, I was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments as Governor
I changed pollution laws in favor of the power and oil companies and
made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

I replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city
in America. I cut taxes and bankrupted Texas government to the tune of
billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in
American history.

I became U.S. President after losing the popular vote by over
500,000 votes with the help of major Enron money and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as President
I attacked and overtook two countries.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S.
Treasury. I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S.
history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in
any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of
the U.S. stock market.

My record for environmental issues is the least of my concerns. I
am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
record.

I set the the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one
year period.

After taking-off the entire month of August, I then presided over
the worst security failure in U.S. history.I am supporting development
of a "Tactical Bunker Buster" nuke, a WMD.

I am getting our troops killed, under the lie of Saddam's
procurement of Yellow Cake Nuke WMD components, then blaming the lie on
our British friends.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S.
president. In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost
their jobs and that trend continues every month.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month
period. I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
president in U.S. history.

I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any
president since the advent of television.

I signed more laws and executive orders effectively amending or
ignoring the Constitution than any president in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and
refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was
revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and
refused to use national reserves as past presidents have done.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut
in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in war
time.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million
people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the
history of mankind.

I've dissolved more international treaties than any president in
U.S. history.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of
any in U.S. history.

I' m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history.

My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil
tanker named after her.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have almost all 50
states of the Union simultaneously suffer massive financial crisis.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any
market in any country in history.

I am the first president in U.S. history to order a pre-emptive
attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so
against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

I created the largest government department bureaucracy in the
history of the United States.

I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending
increases, more than any president in history.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United
Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United
Nations remove the U.S. from the Elections Monitoring Board.

I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S.
history.

I rendered the entire United Nations viewpoints irrelevant. I
withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow
inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners of war" (detainees) and thereby
have refused to abide by the Geneva Conventions.

I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election). I am the all-time U.S. and
world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best
friends, (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation)
presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history. My
political party used the Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election
decision.

I have spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in
U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade
Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most
resented country in the world, possibly the largest failure of diplomacy
in World history.

I am actively working on a policy of "disengagement" creating the
most hostile of Israel-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
security.

I am the first U.S. president in history to have the people of
South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than by their immediate
neighbor, North Korea.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be
awarded government contracts.

I set an all-time record for the number of administration
appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling their huge personal
investments in corporations bidding for U.S. contracts.

I failed to fulfill my pledge to capture Osama Bin Laden, dead or
alive. I failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the
leaders of our country at the U.S. Capitol Building. Even after 18
months I have no leads and no credible suspects.

In the past 18 months following the World Trade Center attack I
have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest
security failure in the history of the United States.

I removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any
president in U.S. history.

In a little over two years, I created the most divided country in
decades, possibly the most divided since the Civil War.

I entered my office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and
have turned every single economic category downward all in less than two
years.



Records and References:

I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine. My
Texas driving record has been erased and is not available.

I was AWOL from the National Guard.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about
drug use. All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my
father's library, sealed, and unavailable for public view. All records
of SEC investigations into insider trading or bankrupt companies
are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or
minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding
public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
review.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I need to respond to this YPAWOM's post is: When the next election comes around, don't vote for him. Convince your family, friends, work/school who ever not to vote for him.

Then you can stop complaining about Geroge W Bush and complain about the next president that comes into office.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think that it makes any difference what country or what leader they are all crooked as hell. How do you think they got into power. Sure by the vote of the majority but they wouldn't even be on the ballot if it hadn't been for money and powerful people backing them. And how did they get the money etc, by being crooked and saying yes sir no sir two bags full sir to the right people and that sure as hell isn't you and I.

Sure next election we all say dont vote for so and so, and so the next one gets elected well guess what "been there done that". Next election please.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to be Bush right about now...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I support the soldiers and the states in going into Iraq. I dont think its about the oil at all - more like investment oportunities (the estamated value is $1.something billion for the three iraqi cellphone zones and thats pretty damn sweet) - or the possibility of getting rid of another dictator who has been proven to be mentally unstable in the past. Even still, the news only focuses on the bad stuff thats happening. Also their always blaming everything that goes wrong on "incompetant leaders". Id sure as hell like to see the news broadcasters lead a fricken country properly and direct a constant urban conflict where you DONT know WHO your enemy is and where they will hit you. Id also like them to shut up and go out to iraq and try to make the country stable themselves - see how long they last. And if your not happy with your government then why'd you vote em in anyways? Over 50% of america (or over I cant remember) voted for bush. This is the kind of stuff that you get when you go right.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that was a long post. One thing that was missed though is Bush is the one that is trying to do away with overtime pay #Fist
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Ruler wrote:
Don't think that it makes any difference what country or what leader they are all crooked as hell. How do you think they got into power. Sure by the vote of the majority but they wouldn't even be on the ballot if it hadn't been for money and powerful people backing them. And how did they get the money etc, by being crooked and saying yes sir no sir two bags full sir to the right people and that sure as hell isn't you and I.

Sure next election we all say dont vote for so and so, and so the next one gets elected well guess what "been there done that". Next election please.


Well put thank you I cannot stand when people bring up that argument vote for someone else
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Drops meh pants and runs around slapping my arse #Beer*

Since I can't vote...Im not going to bother with an opinion

Oh and Bada Bing....Like a fellen
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey ypawom, if you hate him so much, you can leave this country. i for one prefer not to have someone else's political veiws shoved down my throat, especially when a lot of the stuff you said was extremely misleading. oh, you forgot to mention that he is the president that has the record for the highest aproval rating ever. he is an average president, who inherited the problems that bill clinton avoided. its called a business cycle, you should look it up, it explains a lot of the so called "Bush Mistakes" that you talk about. these things will happen to any world leader, at any time, when the business cycle is in a trough. add to that the 9-11 attacks, and no president ever could have prevented the economic decline that the US experienced. as far as the war on terror goes, i have 3 letters for you. C-I-A. we have the most technologically superior intelligence agency in the world, and they know things that we never even dreamed to be true. they have thwarted over 100 terror attacks since 9-11. they know the real deal, they know what is going on in this world. and they dont tell us, because people would FREAK OUT if they knew how many evil in-human people were out there trying to hurt americans. just because you dont think we have a reason for fighting wars, doesnt mean there isnt one. Bush isnt going to tell us the whole story, and its for our own good. if he went around telling everyone everything he knew about saddams WMD's or where bin laden is or who is trying to get us next, those people would stop and find another way. when we dont show the enemy everything we know, they can't anticipate what we will do next.
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