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Violent Pacifist
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ToRaK wrote:
Hummm.

If you had spent 50 deaths being the only one on offense to bring a flag back to your base and get killed in your base because your defense sucks (even though it has 9 players), wouldn't you want your cap?


If they're that bad Torak, then they probably wouldn't cap it anyway...I'ce seriously been on a team where that's happened. Took me 5 more deaths to just get it from our respawn door to the sniper walk! My entire team has passed it without a second glance and continue on their merry way back to respawn.

Personally, I could care less if I got the cap or not. If I die right next to our base and I don't pass the flag on my way to the NME base, then I'll just leave it there, expecting someone to grab it and cap it. And a number of people could claim it was "their cap". I've seen a 3 man relay from the flag room to the respawn area to the yard on Acropolis, and if the third person dies near cap and someone on D gets it and asks "Who's cap?", then who's is it? The 1st man might just be waiting on the flag respawn while the guy stands there next to cap.

I don't mind giving up the flag for someone that clearly wants it, or if you ask and then cap it if no one says anything in like, 15 seconds. But I do mind when you get people that run around with the flag asking whos cap for over 5 min. until somebody lies and caps the flag just so that it will respawn.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree, if no one is claiming the flag, then just cap it. For all you know, the medic(an example) could have dropped it for someone defense to take it back to cap, while the med gets to the respawn, or the medic died and there is someone waiting at the respawn. I don't care if it doesn't take long to cap, but when I am waiting there for a few minutes and die because the flag didn't get capped, that is when I get angry.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2002 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually play sniper and thats all i got on my mind. But if i see a med or someone running the flag back and get killed i'll grab the flag. take it to our base and toss it back to the med or the first person i c. then go back to sniping.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my take......

Cap the flag, don't worry who's it is, just do it as fast as possible to try and help your team.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is most annoying: offensive HW picks up the flag from the yard, takes forever to find the CP, and then gets to the CP after about 10 minutes. You probably hear "Cap it already!!!"x100 If everyone didn't care about their individual score, then there would be no need for "Whose cap is it?"
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx Optik & Dad.

That was a great game! No matter what the nme threw at us, they just couldn't break through. That was great D. I also have a soft spot for engy's.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

meanwhile while we wait for original person who liberated the flag to come back and claim their cap.. our team mates are getting killed standing on the enemys flag return waiting for it so they cam at least move it up a little bit... "team" fortress classic? aparently not for everyone... does it bugg me that i dont get to reap the rewards of my deaths? sure.. but if they changed the scoreboard to not show personal scores and show only team scores id still play the game! too many people who are all about "me" playing a team game doesnt really fit IMHO but will it change? not likly.. theres always someone new who will cry "my cap!" and get all bent about the way the actual team players play the game... btw anyone catch the F1? nothing like being a raceing god...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kjeldorian Royal Guard wrote:
Thx Optik & Dad.

That was a great game! No matter what the nme threw at us, they just couldn't break through. That was great D. I also have a soft spot for engy's.


I have never seen this soft spot.

On the cap topic. Maybe instead of getting rid of the personal score, they just don't give you 10 points for a cap, there are actually some maps that do that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what it comes down to - some people get REALLY annoyed when they put a lot of effort into capping the flag and can't reap the "rewards" with the cap. So if someone is extending a little courtesy and asking whose cap it is, don't flame them.

Now, if you've respawned twice in the time it's taken them to figure out who's going to cap, then go cap it yourself already!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warhammer -TPF- wrote:
Here's what it comes down to - some people get REALLY annoyed when they put a lot of effort into capping the flag and can't reap the "rewards" with the cap. So if someone is extending a little courtesy and asking whose cap it is, don't flame them.

Now, if you've respawned twice in the time it's taken them to figure out who's going to cap, then go cap it yourself already!


I personally haven't really seen it occur fast. I don't mind if someone asks, but when the ask for a few minutes, that is where it gets to be rediculus. I also think that the cap actually belongs to the person who does cap it. If you die while taking it back then you lost it. I just get annoyed when people take too long to figure out who the cap "belongs" to.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you've all got similar thoughts -- but if i see the flag has been droped ill pick it up n try n cap it -- so anyone waiting can get it when it re-spawns -- or if i see a faster class near me -- ill toss it to them -- to speed up the game

thats what i tryed to do yesturday on acrop -- i would go to the enemy's flag spawn n try n keep the defence at bay while medics/scouts keep flag running -- if their ist a medic/scout around n it spawns ill take it as far as i can or toss it to the first fast class from my team i see -- it was anoying me yesturday cos on acrop i was their in the enemy's flag re-spawn area trying to keep it clear for ppl to keep flag running n all i kept seeing was 'who's cap' over and over
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only ask "who's cap?"(or whatever variant I throw out now and then)
under 2 circumstances

1) someone carried the flag a substantial distance to the cap point

2) they are arn't bitching that its thier cap

I mean really the flag is on my freakin back... what you gonna do kill yourself with reverse damage?

heh .. I guess my hatred for cap hogs kinda shows but ya know... we all hate hearing every 20 seconds that's my cap

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2002 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sully wrote:
I don't care if you cap the flag that I carried back, but I'm gonna offer any flag I find, if it's close to the cap point.

Just courtesy, in my opinion.


I agree 100% here, that's exactly what I do too.
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