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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:54 pm    Post subject: building webpages Reply with quote

Can anyone direct me to either a good book or website for building/hosting webpages?? Im wanting to mess around with it to see if its something I like before I go balls out and try to become a pro. ive messed around with like geocities and such just to get a feel but lost interest as it seems geocities makes it more complicated then it needs to be with all there "special" rules.

I appreciate any help
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry -- i havent got a clue -- i posted a thread similar to this not long back -- and in the end i just settled on using a template that i found to create my lil space
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe ok.. first.. what type of pages do you want to create? the basic html? asp? php? shtml? if your new isd suggest starting out with just the basic html its not that hard to understand really.. alot of it is the same as like the BBCode for this forum... you can look for how-to's on the web or you can find a nice simple web pae taht you like right click on it and choose view source take a look at that and see what the page is made up of.. (you could just get a program to do it for you like MS Front Page or HotDog or HomeSite (most have real good tutorials)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny that this thread was started cause I'm just starting to tinker with the idea myself. I already have Frontpage 2000 on my comp so I guess I have a head start. Only problem is I don't have much upstairs as far as understanding any of it. I just recieved my new book "Frontpage 2000 For Dummies" so I'm hoping I'm at least a dummy and can figure it out. Good luck on your search. BTW, JD was a huge help in giving me info that I needed. You might try PM'ing him and asking him personally. He's one smart cookie .
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think what might also help is a link if anybody knows to a ws_ftp file place which will help in uploading or downloading files and pictues

and bright red nipples i need a favor from u lol to upgraded my back and white picture to a colored one?? that one is 2 yrs old hehehehe

and i thank you for the help on the picture again bright red nipples and you would again for helping me out Bright Red Nipples..

But does anybody know a link to ws_ftp files it be so helpful!!??


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

most ISP's gave you a small amount of space for a web page a long time ago i dont know how many do now but you may want to check your isp's page and see if they give you space for a webpage if they do they should give you instructions on where to upload your pages and pictures too if not then you need to find a free host or pay for one sorry to say places like geocities make webpage building a pain in the butt some of them have their own weird uploading clients or things they call page builders wich arent the greatest things in the world... frontpage is easy to make a page with pretty much open it up type hi in the window go to file then save as and save it as whateveryouwant.html and thats a webpage all it says is hi but its a start... if you can use word then you can use frontpage its almost the same thing if you look at the bottom you can switch it to html and look at the html it makes itll look something like this...

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>New Page 1</title>
</head>

<body>

<p>hi</p>

</body>

</html>
thats a web page

i can break it down to you and give you an idea of what each bit means...

<html><-- this tag tells your web browser that this is a webpage

<head><-- this tag marks the header wich sets up some of the info that your browser needs to display the page how you want it it will have things like background color and other things in it wich let your browser know what color the text should be or the background or whatever

<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us"><-- these are meta tags search engines look at these when they sniff out web pages you can include keywords in them so like if your page is about fishes and you want it to show up when you search for fishes in google adding a meta tag with a keyword of fishes helps

<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>New Page 1</title><-- this is the title of the webpage it will show up across the top of your web browser
</head><-- this marks the ending of the header
all tags have an open and a close the <head> is the open and the </head> is the close the tags signify that your browser takes whats between them and reads it as information on how to display the page

<body><-- the beginning of the body of the webpage

<p><-- the paragraph tag this should look famillliar -->hi the closeing paragraph tag--></p>

</body><-- end of the body of the web page

</html><-- end of the webpage

anyway instead of continueing classes here... you can look up on the web html basics on how to make your pages and so forth or try here
http://www.htmlhelp.com/
that should be enough to get you started and if you dont have a place to store the pages thats not too important right now you can make a webpage right on your hard drive and read it as if it was on the web with your browser
home some of this helps.. if not it gave me someting to do cuz i cant sleep....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I already have front page 2000 installed but I dont really want to use any of the template because none look to impressive to me, of course that could be me being a NooB in this area. Im going to start out with Basic HTML for starters, Ill save Java and all that other crap untill I can learn and be familiar with the basics. Ill check out that web site and thanks for the Info.

Oh and BRN, let me know if that book is very helpful or not, maybe ill check it out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that even though you have frontPage, it is a good idea to have a working knowledge of html. There are somethings, I think, that are much easier to tweak in the html view than through the normal drag and drop view.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is one that might be of interest to you...

Flash and Dreamweaver. Flash is great for making menus or neat sections on a website. You could also build an entire page in flash, but I have learned that it becomes hard to navigate for a regular user.

Dreamweaver is just like Frontpage, but some like it better. It is a little more sophisticated, but is just as friendly as Frontpage, IMO.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flash is great its like makeing your own movie for a webpage but the learning curve is a little steep for a total newbie now if you want to make simple flash stuff swish is the way to go most of the signatures you see here that are flash were probably made with swish.. its prety easy to use lots of wizards... Hoax is totally right though there are some things that front page is more of a pain in the butt to use like inserting vbscript or java adding breaks where you want them... youll figure it out after youve used it a bit...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all kinds of good stuf out there to work with .. and yes i agree with one big hoax a knowledge of html helps!! and works even if your adding photos to the web site..

dreamweaver i have not tried much but also so many idea you can put into a web page but a limited amout of space people or companies give u..

example att has a 15 megabyte limit i think


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im starting to make one of my own from scratch now -- i dont really like the templates

and i found this really good site were you can copy code to do certain things

HERE IT IS

check it out -- trust me im gonna be using stuff of it -- like the clock that follows your mouse pointer around the screen -- lol --

i think they got some tutorials on it too -- i havent looked through the whole site yet -- i only just found it
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks bobins very much for the help and i was also trying to help others out in web pages but i am finding lots of help from my fellow villuns hehehehe

your the best family a lady can have in the ville forums and gaming servers and extra thxs boobins for the update on web pages!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a good site. I currently have a webpage here. Its completly free!
You get:

50MB webspace,
500MB bandwidth permonth,
site tools,
and free addons.

If you want some free flash, buttons, templates etc there go here:
http://freelayouts.com/. Its great and its 100% free.

Hope it helps any one,

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I almost forgot, the webhost address is:

http://www.freewebz.com

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