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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TFC can help people i think, don't get me wrong it is gory but i don't mind that, it's better to kill virtual people than real people isn't it? It could releive some peoples stress on life.

Hope your life goes well jux, Good Bye
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dang Kutlu, you just made me break the drama, I wasn't gonna make any more posts. You just brougt up a sore spot of mine.

The Ville isn't free from polotics. Why is it after Sept 11th the Ville was aflame with pro-american anti-islam posts? No admin stood up and stopped that. I don't get it. That (at least to me) is a surefire political statement. It seems to me that polotics is okay on the ville as long as it goes with the general public. I'm not saying that I don't sympathsize with the Sept 11th victims but if you are going to make a policy, stick to it, don't go halfway, be either for it or agianst it. Mediocricy is a terrible thing. Stand up for what you belive in.

PS. I may stick around the forums just becuase I like arguing.



Scuse me! When I was admin I stood up (and got shouted down for the most part).

Sorry to see you go Juxta - can tell you how to solve the gibs thing if it'll keep you in TFC - can't stop the forums or the text in game but the gibs can be set to not happen (I believe)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Something must have dramatically happened to cause you to feel this way


Well... yes, but not actually to ME. But even before that, I've just never liked people much. I can't explain it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sense the tolerance here is growing very thin. Please people, live and let live(you have done very well so far). Dont tear the delicate fabrick that we have created and strived to protect. I am not accusing anyone. Let the sense of INTERNATIONAL unity continue to manifest itself here. Remember what theville is. Let us also not open up old wounds. It pains me to see people argue over September 11th(not only because it happened 15 days before my birthday, no more self pity). This is a bit off topic but, I was in the world trade centers a month to the day before they were destroyed, and I will never forget the people who worked on the top stories in the observation deck, or the elevator operators. None of them made it out alive, please, honor their memory by not argueing over who's fault it is that they died, or who should be punished for it, justice has been served for now, let us let sleeping dogs lie.

Goldom, I have never seen u display ur true feelings(no matter how true they may be) and if u truely do not trust people, you would not have trusted them with those feelings. Goldom, I was like you in the fact that I never trusted people(especially over the internet), but you have to trust somebody eventually(IMO). Please Goldom, if you ever want to talk about anything, just drop me a PM and I will gladly oblige.

Juxta, I hate to see u go, it makes me sad when a regular leaves. TFC is a violent game, and it is QUITE un-realistic. However, that is what makes it fun in my opinion. Just think of it as messy entertainment, dont think of it as a war. If you want a realistic war game I suggest you play Return to Castle Wolfenstine(no gib's unless u get hit by an airstrike ). But Juxt, old habits die hard, u may just get another craving for TFC, and if u do, the ville will always be waiting for you with open arms.


To everyone, this place is neither a rightwinged nor a leftwinged institution. The moderator's strive to protect this fragile equilibrium. Please do not hamper their efforts. I am ofcourse not accusing anyone here, but if u think I am, I can make you think nothing else. Please people, remember what makes you a Villun. If you need some moral boosting, I put a topic up that I think will help( a bit self aggrandizing but it may just be the trick). "Look what theville has done for us!" That is its name, I hope you derive something from it(even those who have read it already).

That is it for me folks, I hope you found this enlightening.

-KK
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jux, you should not have bought this game in the first place if you truly feel that way about it. That was your bad. I seriously couldn't care less about your religious beliefs. Although I will respect someone if I am in their home or in their environment, I will not change the way I am because someone chooses to enter my home or environment. Nor will I sit and listen to someone down my "way" of life while in my home or environment. You entered this gaming environment knowing it was TFC based and knowing the game was rated "M". I am sorry to see you go and I hope all works out for you.

I won't even begin to argue religion but I will say this:
Anyone who comes into this gaming environment and constantly complains about every little damn thing they can find needs to go away. I am serious. Jeez, what is it that makes people want to stay here even though they bitch and moan about everything at every turn? Opinions are always welcome of course but trying to change an entire community because you have issue with it is just silly and completely unfair to everyone.

Some people come in here on their high horses and put down what we do and how we act all the time. They are worse than anyone IMHO. Being constantly judgemental about other people is a crappy attitude to have. Putting people down because your beliefs are different is against the basis of ALL religions. You are not "God". If you don't like the way we are here, leave. Simply leave. Don't come in here and put down what we do and how we behave. We are not here for people like you. We are here to make friends and have fun playing a PC game. That is it. Not to argue religion, polotics, or someone's way of life.

I am just so tired of hearing people complain. It really pisses me off to no end. I am grateful for everything I have here. I have seen so many good things come out of TheVille and the people of TheVille. More good than bad. That tells me, we have something truly special here. I praise Robert and all of the admins for doing what they do. I love this place. I love the friends I have made here. I love the way people treat me and others here. Long Live TheVille.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Post KRG.

Besides that there is a VIOLENCE LOCK you can turn on and it cuts out gibs and blood.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Goldom, I have never seen u display ur true feelings(no matter how true they may be) and if u truely do not trust people, you would not have trusted them with those feelings. Goldom, I was like you in the fact that I never trusted people(especially over the internet), but you have to trust somebody eventually(IMO).


Well, I've been here how long, and can just say this now. It's just that... I innately think the worst of people, and it takes a lot for me to get over that. And... There is someone that I trust.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somehow I'm thinking that Juxt is making that up and exagerating a bit. The part about the #Beer icon convinced me of that. I have a friend who has the exact same critics about swearing, virginity issue, religion etc. Please note this guy never bought Half-Life.... so I'm surprised Juxt would have bought it.

While I respect my friend's opinion (and Juxt's), I would not live by it. I don't believe any religions is better than another when following the "book" thus I believe in my own way of understanding the world.So, as well as I respect their beliefs these ppl have to accept mine or leave me alone. Adapt or perish.

This is a TFC board. If someone's beliefs doesn't agree with TFC, there is only one option.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good game...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yea I'm not a republican anyway. Dislike them almost as much as leftists

Libertarian Woot!

good post KRG, well said.


gg Juxt!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness -

Everyone should remember that the Internet is not a reflection of all of society. It's only a reflection of those capable of accessing and using it, and of those, The Ville attracts a particular cross-section. While it's clear that The Ville is mainly composed of men, what may not be so clear is the cultural cross-section of us. In that regard, I believe it is a very close reflection of the English-speaking western culture. That is to say, most are white or asian, and many consider themselves christian. That's not to say that everyone is a white Republican Baptist male from Alabama (!), but that we are a reflection of Americans as a whole.

A side effect of this is that very few of us will be so bigoted as to hate others for their beliefs, as happens in other parts of the world. Our society supports tolerance for others as one of its cornerstones. However, none of us should be subjects of another's negative views of a culture or society as a whole. That is simply disrespectful.

Everyone, including Juxt, should feel comfortable with who they are at The Ville. No one should disparage you for who you are or what you believe in. What we don't warranty is how you feel about the others you play with. If you dislike Christians, or Jews, or Blacks, or Republicans, that's your prerogative. But I strongly advise against making it a topic for commentary.

This world we live in can be a great place - it's all what we make of it and what we expect of others. Existence can either be painful or it can be a joyous experience. The best we can do is improve it to the best of our ability, and treat others as we would want them to treat us.

That said, peace be with you Juxt, you seem to have a clear vision of what you want to achieve in the world.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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English-speaking western culture. That is to say, most are white or asian


O_o??? Last time I checked, Asia was not english-speaking OR western... what is you talking about??
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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English-speaking western culture. That is to say, most are white or asian


O_o??? Last time I checked, Asia was not english-speaking OR western... what is you talking about??


I may have mis-spoken. I meant western culture Internet demographics. Most are white or asian. 75%+ of Internet users are in the Americas or Europe.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldom wrote:
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English-speaking western culture. That is to say, most are white or asian


O_o??? Last time I checked, Asia was not english-speaking OR western... what is you talking about??


I guess he is speaking about the asian ppl in the United States. There are a lot of asian ppl in the West. Same here in Canada
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeez, what is it that makes people want to stay here even though they bitch and moan about everything at every turn? Opinions are always welcome of course but trying to change an entire community because you have issue with it is just silly and completely unfair to everyone.

Some people come in here on their high horses and put down what we do and how we act all the time. They are worse than anyone IMHO. Being constantly judgemental about other people is a crappy attitude to have. Putting people down because your beliefs are different is against the basis of ALL religions. You are not "God". If you don't like the way we are here, leave. Simply leave. Don't come in here and put down what we do and how we behave. We are not here for people like you. We are here to make friends and have fun playing a PC game. That is it. Not to argue religion, polotics, or someone's way of life.


Did I ever put anyone down when I was not in jest? If I did I'm sorry. I have never tried to change the Ville in any way (at least not in my opinion). The closest I have come to asking someone to change is just asking them not to spray porn or cuss in a game. It is just a polite request while I am in the game. If they want to ignore me that is fine but I hope that just the fact that we are all considerate beings that someone would not do one tiny thing if I asked them to. It does not interfere with gameplay to not cuss or spray things, and it makes the game more enjoyable for those who do not appreciate those things.

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If you like to argue for argue sake go elsewhere.


I do like arguing but I don't argue for arguings sake. I argue for the things I believe in, as would any other person here. I know that a lot of you are not biblical but you have to acknowledge that there is a lot of good advice in the Bible. In one part it says that you should either be for or against something, but not in the middle. One of the things I don't like is someone being "lukewarm" on a subject or "moderate." In reality indecision is a bad way to go. People who are decisive usually impress other people. I have heard Snag say that he respects what I am doing. I'm not saying that all indecision in bad, but when it leads to a non-action, it is.

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Somehow I'm thinking that Juxt is making that up and exagerating a bit.


Exagerrating what?

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Besides that there is a VIOLENCE LOCK you can turn on and it cuts out gibs and blood.


Really? Last time I tried that it just wouldn't let me play the game. I may try that sometime.

PS. I have tried thet gib count change and it just isn't the same becuase when a person should blow up they just dissapear.
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