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Bright Red Nipples Registered User

Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: at work :s Posts: 7684
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:21 am Post subject: |
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I still don't understand why this is suuuuuuuuch a touchy subject around here. The fact of the matter is people use them, like it or not. Is it a cheat?? The admins have spoken on that issue!! I asked in a recent thread what the difference was between a script and a bind and I couldn't believe the responses I was getting. Personally I have no care at all if people use them. I can keep up with almost anyone here as far as skillz go and I don't use them. As long as the admins don't have a problem with them, neither do I. _________________
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Blue Ruler Server Admin


Joined: 28 Aug 2001 Location: Abbotsford,BC,Canada Guild: US-V & Ville $upporter Posts: 3979
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 8:09 am Post subject: |
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JEEZ you guys I could ramble on and on.
Admins LOCK the damn thread. _________________
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Kjeldorian Royal Guard 42 Registered User

Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Location: Dripping Springs, TX Posts: 5563
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Someone will always find a way to make their game play just a little bit easier than the next person. If a script didn't help, it wouldn't be used. Because new scripts are written everyday, it would be almost impossible to track/ban/kick scripters. Thus, it has to be allowed really.
Why does this keep coming up? Because more people play straight up than script. Also, TheVille stance on this issue isn't written anywhere.
If it ever came to a vote, I would of course vote to outlaw all scripts here. However, since it is not against the rules as of yet, no one should bash anyone for running a script.
One thought, you know the few peeps around here that seem to own the general population everytime they play? I dare you to find one of those people that do not use a script. They all run them. Food for thought.
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Thom Yorke Obliterator Registered User

Joined: 15 Aug 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 1088
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 10:31 am Post subject: |
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In reality, there are probably VERY few players at the Ville who do not run some kind of "script". Even those who claim that they don't.
For example, do you have a key bind for "say_team SG down"? That's a script. You are executing 9 key strokes with one button press. Does that give you an advantage over another player? Sure it does. People die while typing all the time. A player who has half his keyboard mapped to different sayings has a clear advantage over one who takes the time to manually type things out.
Scripting is a tool that Valve gave you to use. Explore it. Maybe you'll find a few things you can use. Maybe you won't like it. For example, I've messed with rocket jumping scripts, but don't use them. Why? It's an extra key to press, and I can do the same thing just as well without moving my fingers from their default positions.
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Blown Registered User

Joined: 15 Dec 2001 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 4172
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| Well maybe you guys should do a vote on scripts. Then that would make up my decision as to playing here. I really enjoy being classified as ghey, lamer, and borderline cheater. |
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ToRaK Registered User

Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1105
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| Kjeldorian Royal Guard wrote: | Someone will always find a way to make their game play just a little bit easier than the next person. If a script didn't help, it wouldn't be used. Because new scripts are written everyday, it would be almost impossible to track/ban/kick scripters. Thus, it has to be allowed really.
Why does this keep coming up? Because more people play straight up than script. Also, TheVille stance on this issue isn't written anywhere.
If it ever came to a vote, I would of course vote to outlaw all scripts here. However, since it is not against the rules as of yet, no one should bash anyone for running a script.
One thought, you know the few peeps around here that seem to own the general population everytime they play? I dare you to find one of those people that do not use a script. They all run them. Food for thought.
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So are you saying that the only reason "we" pwn the general population is because we run scripts. BG. Point me to a member of the a top 25 TFC clans that do not run a script.
Are scripts needed to be good? No. But, as one progresses into more competitive league based play one looks at all aspects of the game to hone their abilities and give them that little extra push needed to take there game to the next level.
I quite frankly think that as this issue has not been resolved in the previous Lord knows how many post that this post should be locked and no one should again bring this up. We will never agree. Move along, shows over... _________________ The most hated.
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Kjeldorian Royal Guard 42 Registered User

Joined: 30 Nov 2001 Location: Dripping Springs, TX Posts: 5563
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Torak, you weren't included in that list. I was talking aboot people that own! HAHAHAHAHAHA! j/k
Yeah, it's a subject that won't be agreed on any time soon. You are correct there. If I meant to say that those people all owned because they run scripts, I would have said that. |
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ToRaK Registered User

Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1105
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Lol, notice the "we" as I figured I wasn't included.
Going to go cry cry cry... _________________ The most hated.
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Albino Gibbon Registered User

Joined: 21 Aug 2001 Location: North Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 830
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Just want to make sure that people know, that even if I don't think (multiple action) scripts are right, it doesn't mean I have anything against those people personally. Coming in here and admitting they use them, instead of saying they don't when they do, makes me understand, they think they are legitimately ok. Which is cool. They aren't hiding. We can't really police for scripts. Torak, Computer, Eagle are cool people and could whip me if they didn't even use a script. This topic has been gone over time and time again and I don't like to see people getting upset with one another, when we all have playing here for quite some time and no hard feelings were had, until we start talking about this subject. Until we come up with some rules, there really isn't much that can be said or done. I am not going to play and get pissed at Torak or Computer or Eagle because they have a reload script. I just try and hunt them down and do what I can. I play for fun. I am not elite or uber and don't really care to be. Yea, I spam at times and I am sure they don't like it..........I know Pondscum don't . They say "dang Albino you spam". Hopefully they understand, taking on a fully health/armored soldier with skill is almost impossible for a demo unless they spam. I don't hide, I attack. I am sure they do understand. That is cool with me, but I can hit someone in the skull with a timed mirv almost anytime I want to too. I am also pretty dang accurate with the gl's. Don't lose any sleep over this script thing, it isn't worth it. If a decision is made, we will let everyone know. _________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |
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Kilaak Kommander Registered User

Joined: 21 Dec 2001 Location: Planut Kilaak Posts: 135
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:58 am Post subject: |
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KILAAK KOMMANDER NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HU-MANS FITE OVER SCRITPS!!! IT SO MUCH EASIER TO HATE EVERBUDDY FOR NO REEZUN AT ALL!!!
KILAAK SCRITP:
bind "MOUSE1" "+kill_human; +pee_on_human"
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Swift - VS - Registered User

Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Location: Union City, CA Posts: 151
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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LOLOLOL KILLAK!
First of all no one is calling anyone ghey for using scripts.
Secondly everyone has the right to express their opinions - that is what forums are for.
Third maybe these subjects come up because players are frustrated, and want to use scripts, but the same time feel it may be wrong to some so therefore he/she gets their thoughts on it.
Fourth - this is getting ugly and its not worth it.
PLAY ON FOLKS ITS JUST A GAME!  _________________ Sleek Wild Intelligent Female TheVille Supporter |
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Computer Registered User

Joined: 15 Feb 2002 Location: Dah A T L Posts: 1336
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| blown65 wrote: | | Well maybe you guys should do a vote on scripts. Then that would make up my decision as to playing here. I really enjoy being classified as ghey, lamer, and borderline cheater. |
I will have to say that I'm 100% behind blown here. I refuse to hang around this place if I'm going to be bashed for having a bind. I don't feel I'm doing anything wrong, I have two keys bound to one button. There's another button like that..... hmm oh yea! It's the default grenade button! Lets see what other buttons perform more than one function. How about binded say commands?
So if I'm so 'ghey' for using it or it's a 'crutch' then your falling the same category. You should bind one key to prime and another to toss it. Otherwise your being hypocritical.
Albino, Torak and a few others, you've come through as a voice of reason through all of this, and I can't express my gratitude enough. Everyone is entitled to there opinion on this but using non-constructive critiscim only provokes anger and insights and unruley thread. _________________ "Don't be so humble - you are not that great."
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Blown Registered User

Joined: 15 Dec 2001 Location: Medford Oregon Posts: 4172
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Swift, not to single you out but just responding to your post that no one is saying those things. Not in this post maybe, but if you look at the last long thread all those things were mentioned. |
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Trigger Happy Registered User

Joined: 12 Jan 2002 Location: East Bay, California Posts: 1687
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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LOL. Ok who am I calling ghey? It's not like I'm pointing fingers at u, u, u and u, and calling them ghey. Ghey? WTF?
Neway, again I say in referance to scripts those are my opinions and let them be considered constructive or offensive that depends on the eye of the beholder. If you use a script/scripts, I don't give a rats ass if you do. I already posted my opinions of what I think about scripts. Heck I was the one who created that thread not too long ago, and it ended up like 10 friggin pages. However I understand ppl use them in leagues, in theville and now you think I'm going to bash them and call them ghey for using them? I don't think so. I just don't like scripts in general and I like to express MHO's (my honest opinions). Is that wrong or should I hold in my opinions and let not people know what I stand for? This is the general ramblings and people speak their beliefs and have the freedom or posting what they please. Everyone is an equal here.
You have to remember this is just a friggin' game, LOL. No need to add drama in your life because of what I said. We all should forget about this topic and move on. Anyway, I'm done with this topic. _________________ I like you---that's why I'm going to kill you last.
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John Doe Server Admin


Joined: 12 Aug 2001 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 4979
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yet another thread that has gotten out of hand.
People all have opinions, respect them for it and dont attack them.
Lets just everyone cool down and enjoy playing at the Ville while we can.
I'm locking this thread now since I dont see it going anywhere constructive.
If you have a reason why I should unlock it then send me PM and I will consider your request.
In the mean time I think attacking a person who plays at the ville for whatever reason is just wrong. Its a no win situation and it just gets more people worked up over nothing. Try to remember rule # 1, it applys in the forums as much as it does in game. As a refresher it reads "Respect your fellow players and dont be an asshole"
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