[Computer]

Vote.
_________________
"Don't be so humble - you are not that great."

[Whybkuul]

You forgot one option: "bunnies taste good, kill them and eat them" But seriously, bunnyhopping is part of the game. If you say that bunnyhopping is cheating, you could then say that conc jumping is cheating. They're both exploits in the game that can be used to a person's benefit.
_________________
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" -Ben Franklin

[Hamese]

It's a bug, and should be corrected. There is no doubt about that, but I dont consider it cheating. It actualy takes a little skill to get down. Plus it is not 100% corrected, but you do not get the speed you use to be able to.
_________________

[EagleEyes]

One thing you have to remember, is that conc jumping WAS NOT meant to be in the game. It was meant solely to disable your enemy for a period of time, so you could get past him. The same thing with rocket jumping, they are both very useful, as is bunnyhopping. Yes it is an exploit of the game engine. But on the same lines, so is conc jumping and rocket jumping. Basically what I am trying to say is, bunnyhopping can become a wonderful part of this game, if you guys accept it.

[Blown]

I posted no, but would like to comment on it some. For match play to me anything goes for the most part, but for pub play it can be very frustrating to alot of the players that cannot perform bunnyhopping. Strafe jumping on the other hand is fairly simple to learn though. Not sure how fast you can achieve but I can strafe jump as fast as a scout when I'm a sniper, or faster than a solly when Im a hw. On the other hand alot of ppl cant conc jump, or cant do it very well and you can apply the same complaint to it as you do to bunnyhopping, though bunnyhopping IMO is quite a bit harder to learn than conc jumping is.

[SoDum]

Somebody told me once that Bhopping is a feature of the game, and by saying it's not fair is like saying SGs arn't fair. I nearly burst out laughing. Concs wern't intended to be hopped on. Nor were Rocket jumping. Nor was Bhopping. It just so happened the force behind conc nades could push you in the engines, or that if you stayed constantly turning you'd speed up. It may be an exploit, ablit a minor one. Nowhere near as bad as, say, hiding behind the ladder in well on the roof. Is it fair in pub play against people that nine times out of ten don't know how to do it? Not particularly. Is it cheating? No. I do it when the other team is doing it. The only thing i don't wait for the other team to do is rocket jumping. If you can't rocket jump, you should be playing fisher price: my first first person shooter, not TFC. I occasionally Bhop in rock2, as well, but that's a crap map anyway, noone realy plays that map so much as the mourn it.

Just my take on it.
_________________


Stillness of Body, Focus of thought, oneness of spirit. These are the virtues of a concer.

The only man to boycott happiness!

[Trigger Happy]

I think bhopping is cool. I agree with E on his comments. Yes RL, conc. jumping and bhopping are ways to exploit the benefits of a TFC player. But the bottom line is it isn't cheating. I RL to help me cap points, bhopping, pipe jumping, nade jumping, and conc. jumping can also be used to perform the same tasks. I mean, it is kind of irriatating to see a player bhopping his way to victory, but it shouldn't stop them from changing their style/skillz. IMHO Bhopping is a style/skill, acquired and many people use it to their advantage. Just how rocket jumpng, conc. jumping, pipe jumping, nade jumping and bhopping are used to peoples advantage. It is learned, and it sometimes can stick to people. You can't stop people from doing it no matter if you change the speed. Like you can't stop people from conc. and rocket jumping because it was invented for a purpose. I don't know if I'm making any sense because everyone has their own style and skillz in the battlefield. Good stuff
_________________
I like you---that's why I'm going to kill you last.



- Sig Made By <TVB>Bada^Bing-TPF-

[PHISH]

[Snaggletooth]

I love concing around sentries and other stuff. If people felt the same way about concing as they did about bhopping....I'd still do it. If you can't do it, or haven't tried to do it (HH Concing, B-hopping, and R-Jumping) then stop complaining. And if you've tried, but still can't do it, figure out how to stop people who do know how. Adaptation is part of online gaming, I know if TFC was the same now as it was 2 years ago, I probably wouldn't play it. There are games out with better graphics and other stuff, but the "exploits" and team play involved with TFC make it the game it is today.

[My Personal Insanity]

[Lin Sivvi Defiant Hero]

I think rjumping, etc were not intended to be in valves plans at first, but even valve reaslised they kicked ass. Then again just look at our latest patch, valve might not have tested tf

As for bunnyhopping, it was a bug with skimming, they removed it from cs, and because many people had already mastered it, they left it in tfc capping it to 140%. This makes it fair, for everyone to learn and use.

[hoaxie]

Learn to aim up. heheh It isn't that hard to kill people in the air.

[South-American Fire Ant]

HAMESE U PLAY BASS????

[Computer]

hmm my poll was changed. why?
_________________
"Don't be so humble - you are not that great."

[Warhammer]

You must be infected with a virus. Please update your AV signatures and call the help desk.