General Player Bitc...er, Comments

SoDum · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 3:05 pm Post subject:

Response to Sharks first post.

1) You really have to learn to deal with it. Snipers, are not an uber class. Sure, they are somewhat powerful in the sense they can kill anything in one shot, if lucky. (Along with the spies.) But they have one big drawback that comes with using range. That would of course be that you arn't always going to get a clear shot. And if someone stands infront of you/walks infront of you, you can really complain. Maybe they were a medic that was setting up for a conc? Or a soldier that was shooting rockets at someone? You just have to deal with it.

2) You are. Noob.

In all honesty, it's true, everyone needs nades, but snipers are lucky if they live long enough to use thier two. If they -really- need four... Too bad! Play something with actual grenades that they use, like engies and demos, rather than a sniper. You snipe as a sniper, you don't toss grenades at people all day long. Other people would be better off with four normal grenades and that one special grenade than your four normals. You are basically wasting a special nade each time you take a pack as a sniper.

3) Heres a bit of a touchy subject. I won't lie, i have no reason, i used to gas the respawns in well from the attic. On one hand, dumping four into one respawn is excessive, i really don't see what is wrong with tossing one nade to each respawn. A while back i asked about this in game, and someone responded, "Do you like it when people gas your respawn?" Obviously i had to read the intent of this message and not what i felt. Because i think when someone gasses my spawn that they have a decent offensive spy, and should keep an eye out, so, yes, i do like the warning. Everything else, As in, normal attacking, i agree with you. It's rather sad, though i havn't noticed any incline in it recently.

4) The only subject i really agree with you on. The chat is to say Hi, Goodbye, Taunt your enemy, and help your team out, not to talk about what was on 'friends' the other day.

Anyway, just my take on it all.
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Trigger Happy · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 3:31 pm Post subject:

As a soldier/spie/hw/engy/demon or whatever I use I try to be patient when grabbing a pack of nades. It doesn't really matter to me if a person grabs the pack before I do. But what really bothers me is when someone shoots me away from it and then grabs it. I don't care really as long as it reappears again I can grab a set. On avanti, for instance, it helps a lot that the pack of nades are behind the respawn, rather than having them by the well. Good stuff. And as for priority reasons, hmm that's a tough one. If a sniper or a scout grabs a pack of nades before I do so be it, but what the reality check is, those nades are going to reappear again anyways

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BitterBeerFace · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 3:56 pm Post subject:

[quote="Computer"]

hoaxie · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 4:19 pm Post subject:

About walking in front of a sniper...

I agree that whenever possible you should avoid it... BUT I cannot tell you how many times I have encountered a sniper who has his back against the wall. It happens all the time. What am I to do, find an alternate route? I don't think so. I will try to squat usually, but sometimes circimstances won't allow it.

The only time I get particularly annoyed about MIRV packs (hehe) is before the gates open on Avanti and I am standing *in line* to wait for *my turn* and some rude @$$ just barges in. Wait your turn. Or when someone stands there to take two packs when people are waiting. Take one and get the heck out of my way!!

CyC0Dad · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 4:41 pm Post subject:

[quote="Computer"]

Jaredmonkey · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 5:27 pm Post subject:

OS · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 6:13 pm Post subject:

Brujah

Trigger Happy · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 6:32 pm Post subject:

Hmm, that's a tough one. A lot of the other maps can give you all your nades in just one grab, but in Avanti I understand how you don't get as much secondarys like the other maps do, hmmm. If you just picked one up and your teammate walked in after, I'd say let him/her grab it as you go and use them against the opposing team. Secondaries can cause so much destruction if one was to go on a suicidal mission. I see a lot of people do that and they can literally wipe out SGS with just a single toss. Good stuff

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Trigger Happy · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 6:41 pm Post subject:

Oh and as for spawm spammers. Yeah it get's annoying but what can the enemy team do if ppl just stay behind the gate waiting for all the spam and eggs to be gone. They want to kill the opposing team of course. I sometimes get caught in spam traffic, and once I'm caught in it I'm friggin' naded up in air so many times that I don't have a chance to move. But the reason for me to wait is due to the SG's, snipers and spam. I try to destroy the SGS/MGS first and then go kamikaze. Good stuff.
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Swift - VS - · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 6:55 pm Post subject:

As a sniper I can say I always use my grenades - whether on offense or defense. It comes in handy especially when you are stumbling from scope view and back to your pellet gun (of course that's what I call it since it doesnt do much damage). All I need to do at that point is throw a grenade in the opponents face, then BOOM! OFF WID DA HEAD!

Also when it comes to who gets the grenade packs first, I usually let other classes take it before me because I know they can do much more damage than I can for the moment.
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sharkbyte · Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 10:26 pm Post subject:

Jolly:

Perhaps I wasn't clear on my first point: I understand that there are many
times there is no choice but to go in front of a sniper. I am just saying to try
and be aware that he/she is there, and don't just stand there if it IS NOT
necessary. (OBH made this same point, a few posts ago.)

As for nades, like I said before - I will defer to anyone who comes for them. However, to make a general statement that all snipers don't use nades, is just plain wrong.

Maybe you should try being a sniper more often, and being a little
offensive rather than entirely defensive. You might get killed a little more
often, but you can disrupt a lot of what is going on. Mostly because you
are constantly sighting/shooting. You take damage from people, but not
necessarily killing them. But they die easier when your teammates hit them.
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SoDum · Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 12:01 am Post subject:

Are you kidding, i'm the only combat sniper i've seen ever.

I still don't use my nades though, i use my nails if it comes to a combat situation. Or the auto rifle (Terrible weapon it is) If i run out of nails.

Of course i'll prime my nades, but i don't rely on them. Sniper is the second most often class i played, in the past, next to HW. Now i play mostly Solly and spy, but, that's cause i -can- play those classes with my low ping. They honesly don't need the nades in comparision the the other classes i know more about than what weapons they have.

Do they not use them? No. But if they are going to lose, they are going to lose. If they are going to win, they are going to win. Nades should not make a difference, and if they do, start practicing using your nails.

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