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Greebo · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 1:43 pm Post subject:

Hang on, I thought this was a war on terrorism?
If that's the case why it's "beyond just getting the terroists and revenge."?

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ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:34 pm Post subject:

"Because there are targets in there."
That pretained to your post

"Because it's beyond just getting the terroists and revenge."

Sorry this wasen't intended as a response to your previous post. It's more like a thought that were heading down the path of a holy war ourselves with the terroists and anyone who supports them. The world maybe a better place afterwards or not we shall see. It maybe a smoking hole.

Greebo · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:18 pm Post subject:

ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:25 pm Post subject:

I would assume to preserve the life of the United States foot soldier.

Maian · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 6:03 pm Post subject:

Cmon guys, you're following blind patriotism. Not everything that the government does is right. In the eyes of the Germans, they thought Hitler was right to try to wipe out the Jews, but was he? And is the answer to killing more killing? If someone kills another persons brother, and that persons brother kills the first guy to avenge the death, is that right. Some may argue it is, but does that person who killed for revenge not go to jail. and guess who sends them to jail, but our own government. So our government is being hypocritical. If we keep this up, they will attack us back, and we will attack them back, and the vicious cycle will continue until somebody is killed off. Why?

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ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 6:20 pm Post subject:

Yes thats the usual out come of war.

Greebo · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 8:17 pm Post subject:

So Roof, do you propose that we continue bombing indefinitely, until we hit bin laden?

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FragFailure · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 8:33 pm Post subject:

The answer to that question Greebo is yes. Turn his ass over or pay the price.

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FragFailure · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 8:42 pm Post subject:

It also seems that you get easily offended by everything that remotely makes fun of the afghni people. The only thing you are doing is disputing every point we bring out.

The only solution to this crisis I see from you is to send in ground troops and stop bombing. Let me ponder this. So we are going to send troops into a hostile enviornment with the enemy targets still up? Sounds like a deathwish to me.

What is your solutions Greebo since you are enjoying this discussion. You are baiting everyone into this with your responses to every joke posted on the topic. A wee bit thin-skinned are we? This isn't the only board you are posting about this on and getting the same reaction. The reason why you are in the minority on this particular topic is because it doesn't hold water in my opinion. I do repect your opinion though. I just think it's flawed

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Greebo · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:12 pm Post subject:

Greebo · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:16 pm Post subject:

I've already told you my solution.
Bomb the outer targets - which will make up a good percentage of total targets - until they're gone.
Land the troops in areas outside the cities which have been bombed, take the cities and remaining military targets by force with ground troops.
Overthrow the Taleban - then see what to do about bin laden.

Btw why was Bush not keen to take up the Taleban's negotiation offer despite giving them a last chance last night?

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BeanDaddy · Registered User Joined: 30 Aug 2001 Posts: 6

Okay - I usually don't participate in these kinds of discussions in this context, but I feel a need to say something here. It is not U.S. military policy to indiscriminately bomb civilian targets in Afghanistan and no one is accusing the U.S. of doing so except for the Taliban. The errant, 2,000 lb. bomb that landed in a residential area of Kabul was intended for a pseudo-military target.

Is it fair that those people died due to what is called an 'act of revenge fueled by hatred'? No - when innocents die, there is NEVER justification for it. But whether revenge is the motive or not, more than likely almost 6,000 people died as a result of an UNPROVOKED attack on US soil. Do we forget about those people? What will be done to ensure that 6,000 more innocents aren't obliterated by an act of hatred and pointless violence? Or 10,000...or 100,000? Or your next-door neighbor...or YOU?

If bombing terrorist target in Afghanistan isn't the answer...then what is? Shake a stick at them and say, 'Don't you dare do it again!' Sorry - that wouldn't cut it for me. I am an American and while I believe that to kill is wrong no matter WHAT the circumstances, I am also grateful that I live in a country that will do whatever it takes to protect me and my family from harm at the hands of a zealot who has NO regard for human life whatsoever.

If innocent Afghans die, then it is a tragedy - more than tragic, it is a horrible injustice and a black spot on world history. But look forward and imagine a world where terrorists are given license to kill with impunity. Imagine bin Laden as more than a outlaw terrorist - imagine him as the leader of a nuclear-capable third-world country. Imagine people all over the world living as they do in Israel - in constant fear of being blown to bits along with their children because of the religion that they practice. Waiting for the next headline that shows dozens of innocent people smeared all over a shopping mall or pizza shop because they live with and accept terrorism as part of their lives.

No thanks...my particular brand of passivism isn't strong enough to let me live in such a world. Bin Laden doesn't stand on any moral high-ground and neither does the Taliban.

Bombs away...

FragFailure · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 1:36 pm Post subject:

Greebo, you just outlined what the US plan is.

Bada Bing · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 1:37 pm Post subject:

Hey did you hear the best Idea of all?
If we capture Bin Laden don't execute him and make him a marter, and don't put him in prison so the terrorists can use hostages to get him freed. Just give him a SEX CHANGE and send him back to Taliban controlled Afganistan and let him live there as a woman!!!
HEHEHEHE

Bada Bing · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 1:44 pm Post subject:

try this
http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god_clarifies_dont_kill.html