NO MORE NEO!!!!

OSU Snipe Shocker · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:02 am Post subject:

I must shout for fear of being overlooked.

This post is to let the admins know who out there wants Neo to go bye bye. I'm sorry, this is just out of hand. I mean, with the c-bar launchers and the teslas and the airstrikes...its just not fun anymore if you are on the recieving end of an pwning on Avanti.

I was playing tonight at around 4:30AM est on TV3, because it was the only server with players this late. ANYWAYS...I joined the game and then remembered that it was a neo server, but I stuck around. I joined and we were trying to cap 3. When I left 20-25 minutes later, guess what, we were still trying to cap 3. It was so hard to be offensive when the defense is so tight that they don't even hav to try. The enemy snipers were on OUR balcony (the one that the teleporter drops you on in TV1). We were also overrun with spies from the defense. Then their Heavy, a pyro and several soldiers decided to hang out in and around the death room. Lots of fun for a lowly sniper...

I say we get rid of neo on all of the servers. Make the ville pure once again. We need to purge ourselves of this evil and go back to the basics.

Okay, here is the end game screen of the awful game tonight. The teams were 10 on blue 9 on red for most of the game. Notice the highlighted scores. It rather disturbing to see the scores of the Blue team versus that of the red team...I think the pic speaks for itself.

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[WVR]MREBoy · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:38 am Post subject:

yo -

Just for informational purposes, here's what the team composition was for Blue. I'll agree with SnipeShocker, Red was getting its !@#$%% kicked for a good while.

MRE

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Bada Bing · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:00 am Post subject:

I like Neo but some of the new features are out of hand I agree.

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PondScum007 · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:44 am Post subject:

neo is great! sure the crowbar and flamegun are nuts, airstrikes sting a bit, and all kinds of other crazy stuff isnt that fun sometimes, but thats waht neo is all about...theres nothign better than going dmeo being chased by a HW and dropping all 4 mines and a mriv then vblowing it all and laughung at the gibs...neo is only on one server, and i think its a nice alternative to good old straight up tfc...LONG LIKE NEO ON TV3

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Lin Sivvi Defiant Hero · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 8:13 am Post subject:

I wouldn't mind playing without the crowbar and flame guns, and with the mgs not shooting spys. I also wouldn't mind no agpods, and well everything else in newby-tf.

Blown · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 11:56 am Post subject:

Ill add my 2cents. I think spys should go undetected, why? Simple, then the offence can take down the defense easier. Neo is so heavy on the defence now you need to do something to even it out. If a spy can get in and take out some mgs then a demo or somebody can get in and mirv whatever is left.

One map though I hate having neo on and totally ruins it is osaka. Maybe we could move osaka to TV6 where neo isnt at?

Paddyjack · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 1:03 pm Post subject:

I agree with that. I don't mind some Neo from time to time, and 1 server is not too much. However, that spies are detected annoy the hell out of me, especially on Warpath.

Question: who created the NeoTFC?? Is it something that was created by TV people?

PyROZen · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 1:38 pm Post subject:

neo is getting out of hand with the new version. Maybe you guys could set neo back to the version before, since it actually had some balance. The main thing that makes it hard are the AG pods. These things are to damned hard to destroy since you can only use bullet weapons and no explosives. This is near impossible when there are enemies standing near the AG pod, and they are recieving health bonuses also.

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Blown · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 3:04 pm Post subject:

agpods that ive noticed only knock down secondary grenades. Normal nades dont get affected by them and will blow the pod up.

Goldom · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 3:20 pm Post subject:

how to fix ntf:

1. Make spys undetected
2. Give c-bar launchers a warm-up time like teslas.
3. Make teslas miss sometimes.
4. give classes like HW + soldier offense skills to counteract all the D

Lin Sivvi Defiant Hero · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:23 pm Post subject:

Answering the other question of someone's in the thread, newby-tf is coded by spannerspammer -[AoE], maelstrom (the halfd coder), and Hitokiri Battousai. Crrrazzzy, is just some fag who got the idea and had others make it.

OSU Snipe Shocker · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:31 pm Post subject:

To add to what Lin posted (I would've posted earlier, but the phone rang)

ANYWAY. As far as the coding of NEO-TF, we can do nothing about it other than complain. No Vill-un had any input on the creation of NEO. Given this, we have three options.

1-Keep new NEO (ag pods, c-bar cannons, fire thingees, etc)
2-Revert to Old Neo (don't remember all the details, but I know there were no C-bar cannons, no AG pods, etc)
3-NO NEO PERIOD.

I am very sorry to all who love neo as it is (I don't believe there are very many of you) but I think that it gives the defense a HUGE advantage, and with a Map like avanti where you CAN (not theoretically, CAN) hold a cap point the entire game with very little effort, I think something needs to be done. And that something, IMHO, is to totally remove Neo from the ville.

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Lin Sivvi Defiant Hero · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:35 pm Post subject:

... 4th options, have the admins change the cvars, to disable crowbars mgs, agpods, and then turn on spy ignore.

BitterBeerFace · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:44 pm Post subject:

What about enabling NEO only on maps where it's cap the flag, not control the town? (Avanti, dustbowl, osaka, etc would not have NEO and warpath, badlands, crossover2, etc would have NEO)?

OSU, one thing you were saying:

Blown · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:49 pm Post subject: