[l3eeron]

That group screeny looks like a kids game, I'm not stoked
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[LJ]

Oh I like the look of those models. Looks like it could be fun.

But, I'm concerned about some things in tfc ...

Bunny Hopping - BAD idea... just don't allow it. It's truly lame that someone can GAIN speed by this trick.

Conc jumping - just don't make it so easy. Make it so people actually have to drop the conc on the ground.

Grenade Jumping - limit weapon jumping to demoman and soldier imo.

Scripting - Go over all the commands and seriously considering not allowing them as part of a script or macro. Things like shoot or nade toss shouldn't be scriptable. Those kind of things should be something that a player should have to learn rather than just let a script do it for them.

I loved tfc back in the day but I started hating it after things like the above just became far too common. It destroyed the fun.

[Stevo]

Hmmm... Not sure what to think about the new look.
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[LJ]

I didn't say to nerf rocket jumping. I said limit the weapon jumping to the demoman and soldier. That means that only the demoman and soldier can weapon jump.

And it isn't because "I can't do those abilities". They're just lame. Conc jumping totally bypasses fighting. It's TOO easy to do. Just let go at a certain time and you get to jump half way across the map bypassing any sort of defense.

Bunny Hopping causes a HUGE increase to speed. So much increase to speed that a person can cross an open area with a sentry gun and LIVE.

When I played TFC the class I enjoyed the most was The Engineer. But, many of these abilities made me near useless because it came far too easy to simply bypass any sort of defense I could setup. In no way are these abilities adding depth or skill to the game. It's taking away skill. They're making the game boring from a defensive standpoint. Having people just run back and forth capping flags over and over again and just BYPASSING anything that prevents them makes the game boring.

Perhaps that's why I switched to dod. In dod people actually attempt to do defense. One team capturing all the objectives/flags doesn't happen that often in dod. In tfc, teams cap flags 10-20 times a map if not more. Flags get capped so much that people totally ignore defense because offense is TOO easy. That isn't depth. That doesn't make the game fun. But, I guess that's just me

[powdermilkman]

i think junkyard asked what was the chance of seeing this here at the ville...well we will more than likely test it and see how it feels and how it plays and what bugs it has...and if a admin mod can be applied to it...once we figure that out then i would say a very high chance.

i kinda like the look...i always thought of tfc as the silly version to unreal or something like that...so this would seem to fit



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[FragFailure]

They better have the classic maps. TFC is life.

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[Mike]

LJ I don't want to argue about this anymore, but I do suggest you try joining a HLTV server when a clan match is taking place and you will see that even the best concers and bhoppers can be stopped with a good defense.

Frag, I remember hearing about someone who visited valve a while ago and they saw someone working on a source version of well.
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[MunkeyEye]

I like the look actually! They look like real FUN characters to mow down!!

At least now for realism, I have my DoD, and for slapstick-cartoonish-concing-rocketjumping-fun, I'll have my TF2!!!

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[Mulder]

I hope valve has put some time into this game; actually making it a decent game and not just slapped together to try to get a source fortress out before FF does.



As for the other topic in the thread, there are 2 types of TFC players:

Those that can bhop/conc well, these players enjoy doing it and wouldn't be playing this 8 year old game still if it weren't for bhop/conc.

And then's there's those that cannot bhop/conc well and hate it, chances are, these players have never experienced bhopping first hand and do not realise how fun it is.
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[LJ]

Like I said, it isn't about not knowing how to do it but about thinking it's lame. To suggest I don't like it because I don't know how is ignorant.

[Mike]