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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2002-02-21 13:12, JollyRoger wrote:
it is argueably the easiest class to play in general past perhaps pryos and scouts.


Woooooo! hold on a minute I totally disagree with you here. I think pyro might possibly be one of the hardest classes to play well. They have no over powering weapon, no ability to conc/rocket jump, and become a complete tool underwater. Like I said in another thread you won't see them leading the leader boards (probably) they supportive role is very profound.

and KRG I'm not trying to lump n00bs and llamas together I recognize that there is a difference a n00b is well someone that is new to the game adn doesn't really udnerstand what is going on, I'm totally cool with this and I will be supportive and helpful in anyway that I can to them. A llama is someone however who will produce comments such as "I roxxor" after having a massive 2 frags and 243534 deaths. Or spams the screen with idiotic binds. Or just acts like a total tool lamer in general.

I agree that anyone that calls a HW a newb for getting killed by one. is probably the newb themselves. I don't find them terribly overwhelming particulary if I'm playing a Soldier or any other class that can get at them from a distance, or outmanuevre them. Besides one conc and Mr. HW = Mr. I can't aim at a damn thing so I'm no better than the wall right here.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i want to cry...i had this huge post typed up on how badass pyros are and the damn thing didnt submit when i sent it and its all erased now!! ok well i will summarize. HWs should kill the most, but are slow and cant cap well...thats how they are weak. pyros are mean and take a lot of skill to play well. once you get a hold of circle strafing you can own any class except soldier and demos are a bit of trouble too. pyros are strong and fast. they have a good long range weapon that disrupts and a great short range weapon. plus when you get good with pyro rocket launcher it is possible to shoot people like a soldier does, it just has to be a perfect shot. bottom line...pyro is extremely underrated and once people take time to learn pyro they will see how strong it is. it is not just a suicide, flame-like-an-idiot class.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have some of the best HWguys anywhere on this server. YourPowersAreWeakOldMan and Rata-Tat-Tat are simply unbelievable. I mean that... unbelievable. Before playing regularly on The 'Ville, I felt that I could hold my own in a 1 on 1 fight against any HWguy while playing soldier. They might get me sometimes, but I'd be sucessful at least 50% of the time, usually more.
Now that I only play on The 'Ville, I've found that there are a few HWguys that are just too damn good to go 1 on 1 against. I've got to open a whole bag of tricks just to survive the encounter, let alone beat them.
I find that when I go up against YPAWOM, I just cannot beat him. He is easily the best HWguy I've played against. It's great practice to go against him though, and a lot of fun. There are several other highly skilled HWguys here also, Nurplit and Mr. Hat leap to mind. I'm sure I'm leaving some out, too.
So when I hear people bitching about HWguy nOOb's, I just roll my eyes, because I know that there are some guys out there who are SO skilled at HWguy, they can hold their own against anybody.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're playing a pyro wrong then.

They are simple if you know your limits. You're limits are small. Light up every enemy that comes close and then don't hang around. Easy, compared to some classes... Though perhaps a bit more diffacult than HW, true. Scouts are still easier.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do think a scout is more difficult than a HW however I think conc jumping is crucial and because I suck at it I'll have to declare the class more difficult IMHO

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey jolly...i don't think you have the right idea on how to play pyro. i hope that didn't sound rude or whatnot, cuz thats not how i meant it. what i mean is...if you say lighting people on fire and running away is the only job of a pyro then you might as well say the only job a medic has is to run around and infect people. and thats just not true. pyros are not limited to small tasks. pyros are great offensive weapons because of speed and good armor and they can also disrupt an attacking team when playing defense. if you think they can only light people on fire and run then you need to start playing with some better pyros. they light people on fire and kill too. i had 15 flame kills in a row in a 3 min stretch one time. pyros can just flat out kill people too. i really think they are just a notch below soldiers in killing and they even up with soldiers overall because they can distract and harass people as well. i will start playing more often and you can see

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2002 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if you say lighting people on fire and running away is the only job of a pyro then you might as well say the only job a medic has is to run around and infect people.


Yea, that's about right. I dunno. That's how i've seen most of the better in my eyes pyros play. (TPFers, and just generally useful people. ) I personally just run around frantically and cause problems. I still think they, in comparison are one of the more easy class, however they are played, so long as you don't stand and fight agianst someone that knows how to counter-act the flames. (Course, seems like most do nowadays...) But, hey. If someone can prove to me otherwise, i will have my foot in my mouth, huh?

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