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cmon · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject:

Education is the way to go. One of the greatest responsibilities of a parent is teaching right and wrong! America has been attempting to be the parent to the rest of the world for quite some time now, with limited success.

We all know it will be difficult to track down and jail the "masterminds" of these horrors, but never-the-less, we must! I think that America will have a difficult time getting ANY cooperation from certain countries in this endeavor.

Hopefully, the world will be a better place in the future...as long as there is 3-d gaming!
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Stevo · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject:

Lhiannan_Shee · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject:

No, I don't think becoming just like them will teach anyone anything. We can't tell terrorists to stop being violent... and then go out and slaughter them!! They'll just keep trying to make the next attack worse.... and progressively.... BOOM!

This is a tricky topic. I can't say I oppose all use of force. The Iraq thing tho, imo, was no immediate threat, and just plain stupid.... esspecially considering all the bad press and inhumane way the prisoners were dealt with. I bet seeing those pictures of the abused Iraq's and smug little nasty soldier women pissed off a LOT of terrorists. More harm than it did good, altho I agree Sadam needed to be removed from power...
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Rebel_Rouser · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject:

Well I believe we do have to kill the terrorist........they already have and will continue to come after us...well then we will have to go after them....and take the war to their countries, not ours here at home. Terrorist are an evil people.....set in thier ways and there is no changing them at this present time.....they are willing to freely blow themselves up just to try to kill others......anyone that finatic cannot be taught otherwise......how many of you would blow yourselves up to kill others....none of us would cause we do not have that mentality...we have the other one get them before they get me(us). Educating the childern is a good idea....but that will not be allowed until the current regimes with these evil ideals are removed.
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Violent Pacifist · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject:

cmon · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:37 am Post subject:

The people who blow themselves up are being fed quite a bit of bs from the masterminds. These suicide bomers have nothing to live for anyway, so why not blow up "the enemy" on your way out.(not too much different than the kamikazi's of WWII, obviously the main difference is they are blowing up anyone who happens to be around including women and children) If America continues to go after the masterminds, we should be successful in the short term. The long term requires a lot more effort. Like something I heard about what we are doing in Iraq --- I heard that we are setting up free Internet access where-ever we can in Iraq simply to give these dirt-poor people a REAL idea of what is going on in the world. I'd say thats a good start, information and the ability to process it are important parts of making decisions...There will always be bad apples, but when people realize there is so much more to live for, then you won't be seeing so many suicide bomers....
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Ranger<3 · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:27 am Post subject:

Its what they believe in. There Commanders say. He says blow this up and you will be sent to paradise. So jeez they aint to bad of a deal. Same with Christians. But there the other way around. Dont kill and you shall go to paradise.
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cmon · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:

That is the total opposite of what christians believe.
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osiris · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject:

I know most of you wont agree with me, but i grew up in a econmic struggle so i can relate with these so called "Terriost". Most people in 3rd world countrys are so concered with getting food / sheleter / water that freedom and a socalist democracy is beyond thier rational. They dont realize america cannot exist without seperating them from thier idenity, because if they had a sense of who they really are theres no way in hell
they would of let us invade thier homeland or push our genocidal consciece on their homelands. I hear some of you guys talking about change and working within the system to achiece that, but the problem with bein a confromist is that when you try change the system from within its not you who changes the system, its the system that will eventally change you. You see 3rd world countrys are rich places just look at some of saddams places. Abundant with natural resources and many of these 3rd world countrys have the compasity to feed thier straving peoples and the childern you see diggin for food in trashcans on tv, But plutocracys or in other words a Goverment run by the rich such as AMERICA and tradional oppressive europien states forced the 3rd world countys into buyin overpriced unnessary goods, while exporting huge potions of thier natural resources. As differnt as weve been taught to look at each other by colieniel society were all in the same struggle untill we realize that well be fightin for scrapes from the table of a system that has kept us subservant instead of bein self detrimend. See in america the attiude that is force feed us, is that outside america there live lesser people then us. I want a better live for my family, childern BUT it dosent have to be at the expense of millons in some 3rd county, or if we didint have these people to exploite that america wouldint be rich enough to have these petty material things in our life and basic strandards of living, NO thats bull its the buisness giants and the goverment officals who make all the real money and we get what ever they kick down to us, My enemy is not the Terriost wearin some towel around his head, my ememy is people i dont see the people in the white house, the corpate monoply owners, those are my ememys, Those are the real mofo's the terriost need to bring it to, but thier to big, to powerfull to attack, So they have to attack the innocent and have them change the system for them. What they dont tell you on the news is the millons of people who were bombed tryin to kill saddam, or that we gave saddam the chemical weapons to bomb iran. You think the america has never sponserd terriosim??? America probally has more human rights violations then most countrys.. Marshal law comin while you hangin your flag out the window. we act like we celabrate in the spoils of war that they do, we die in wars, we dont get the contracts to make money off them afterwards, Basically one sentence can sum it all up for me

I refuse to trade Humanity for patriotism

Violent Pacifist · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject:

That's a highly pessimistic and paranoid view of the world.
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cmon · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject:

If I remember right, we saw nothing but "innocent people that got bombed by America" on the news during the war. War should be painted in an ugly light, this is true, but how about the good things that are happening. You have to dig to find those stories.
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Rebel_Rouser · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject: