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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: in regards to kurt...aka [LOTR]Aragorn.. Reply with quote

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...get over it we won, you southern boy!!!
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah silly kurt...we just went over them losing today in my history class
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't wait to see Rob's reply
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bright Red Nipples wrote:
I can't wait to see Rob's reply


thought of this as soonas i saw the first post...


and i'd appreciate it if you guys no longer refer to me as white , but instead european american. thank you and good night
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow BRN your sig just got crazier.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite you damn yankies! the Southern Spirt can't be beaten!
If you guys were so great how come u got ur ass kicked for so long, even though you were more than double our size and had 10 times the supplies not to metion other things

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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FORWARD 54!!!!!!!! #Beer
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because of this post, I will now sport the confederate colors.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[LOTR]Aragorn wrote:
Quite you damn yankies! the Southern Spirt can't be beaten!
If you guys were so great how come u got ur ass kicked for so long, even though you were more than double our size and had 10 times the supplies not to metion other things


If the troops were lead by someone competent to begin with.

Just consider yourself lucky. In the history of civil wars from any country anywhere its the only one I know that didn't end with a mass killing of the opposition after the war.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um. I fail to see what was so valorous about the Confederacy's cause.
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't so much a cause, more like a spirit. Nobody aint tellin us what to do especially those darn northerners. Just because you fly the Confederate colors doesn't make you a racist or a redneck. Personally I see it as a symbol of live free, die well.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automaton wrote:
Um. I fail to see what was so valorous about the Confederacy's cause.

what is this supposed to mean? Our (had ancestors) cause was indeed glorious! The Confederacy was defending its states rights, and was fighting for their homes and family as well as their honor to live free. I can give a history lesson here since the civil war is my bread and butter, but if i am asked i will see, doing alot of things right now.
But if you are implying that the War Between the States was fought over slavery this is not the case, even thoug most people think so
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[LOTR]Aragorn wrote:
Automaton wrote:
Um. I fail to see what was so valorous about the Confederacy's cause.

what is this supposed to mean? Our (had ancestors) cause was indeed glorious! The Confederacy was defending its states rights, and was fighting for their homes and family as well as their honor to live free. I can give a history lesson here since the civil war is my bread and butter, but if i am asked i will see, doing alot of things right now.
But if you are implying that the War Between the States was fought over slavery this is not the case, even thoug most people think so


Almost every cause which led to the civil war was directly or closely related to slavery.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shovel Me Silly wrote:
[LOTR]Aragorn wrote:
Automaton wrote:
Um. I fail to see what was so valorous about the Confederacy's cause.

what is this supposed to mean? Our (had ancestors) cause was indeed glorious! The Confederacy was defending its states rights, and was fighting for their homes and family as well as their honor to live free. I can give a history lesson here since the civil war is my bread and butter, but if i am asked i will see, doing alot of things right now.
But if you are implying that the War Between the States was fought over slavery this is not the case, even thoug most people think so


Almost every cause which led to the civil war was directly or closely related to slavery.

Actually no it was not, the Norths goal was not even to free the slaves
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, no. I've done some research in the past and it's very foolish to say that the war was fought over slavery. The Draft Riots are a testament to that.

But slavery defined the economic patterns of the South. The North was becoming increasingly capitalistic - major centres of manufacturing and whatnot. The North was booming, population was increasing, revenue, trade, etc. The South was stagnating in that sense, from what I can tell - it wanted to stay the same. To my perspective, I see that those in the South wanted to live in a society where life was heavily, heavily dependent upon socio-economic trends that were a result of enslaving other human beings of a particular race. If you consider that way of life glorious, then that's simply the difference of opinion.

Anyway, didn't the whole war start simply because the North and the South became two entirely different entities? They were basically two different countries. And Shovels is right - most civil wars end in... hmm, genocide, mass executions and other fun things.

"The South Will Rise Again" - that I don't understand. The United States all already predominantly conservative, basically every recent president has been from the South. Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush, Regan (California sort of counts)... Canada is a nation governed by a very liberal (read: basically the same as the northern United States political alignment) group of individuals for a liberal group of individuals. The South is very different than the North even today - and therefore the United States is very different today. What is it that the South needs to rebel against?


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