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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: HELP WITH MATH!!! Reply with quote

I am in Precalculus, and have a test this Friday on the chapter we are on. We are doing a review (that's graded) that's due the day of the test, and I'm in a pickle with this one problem. The problem is exactly out of the book, so here it is.



I've spoken to a friend who did that problem, and he said the answer was 200√3/3 (as in, two-hundred times root 3 divided by 3, which comes out to be 115.47005383793 pounds of tension when approximated). So now that I have the answer, I need to know HOW to do it for the test. Keep in mind, this is Precalc so we are only supposed to solve the problems using only Law of Sines, Law of Cosines, and things of that sort.

HINT: The 24 inches I'm told by my math teacher has nothing to do with the problem, it's just there to throw you off

AND the chapter we are doing is on VECTORS, if it helps
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how can the 200lb ingot be putting 230lbs of force on the hook though lol
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd ask shockwave, he's like some super genious
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

solution coming...


its quick and rough and, although mathematically correct, its not perfect in notation.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And how old is the bus driver?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jfet beat me to the answer (and provided a much better way to look at it, I would have typed not scanned). You should state the answer as 115.47 lbs in each cable.

Jfet's answer is correct if you assume that the weight of the wire is negligible.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

speaking of math, geometry is the devil. im doing Locus and loci right now...and all i have to say is.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shockwave wrote:
Jfet beat me to the answer (and provided a much better way to look at it, I would have typed not scanned). You should state the answer as 115.47 lbs in each cable.

Jfet's answer is correct if you assume that the weight of the wire is negligible.


and given the problem statement, this doesnt have to be an assumption.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Jfet for doing that problem for me...you actually explained it better to me than my math teacher did

Those darn math teachers

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been 15 years since I took any calculus classes. Since I have applied it to nothing I have forgotten most of it. I do apply some of it to my work so it didn't all go to waste.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now it all makes sense. I didn't even know where to start.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bright Red Nipples wrote:
It's been 15 years since I took any calculus classes. Since I have applied it to nothing I have forgotten most of it. I do apply some of it to my work so it didn't all go to waste.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a pretty easy straight forward problem, but I have taken two semesters of calculus based physics already. Next semester I'm taking statics which is exactly this kind of a problem except a lot more complicated. I can't wait.
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