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Vulcan
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How far into boot up do you get?
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Well I guess it's that time to upgrade I have been on the phone for serveral HRS with ATI and MSI and come to find out they are not very helpfull  . It is time to take my CPU in and get it upgraded to a non onboard video non onboard sound and maybe 3ghz wOOt and 8x AGP which mine only has 4x Which they lied to me about O well I'm wating for a call back from my computer guy with my new set up so I might be out of the game for a couple of days, But I will still bug you all on my laptop  .
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Simpleman wrote: | | Well I guess it's that time to upgrade I have been on the phone for serveral HRS with ATI and MSI and come to find out they are not very helpfull . It is time to take my CPU in and get it upgraded to a non onboard video non onboard sound and maybe 3ghz wOOt and 8x AGP which mine only has 4x Which they lied to me about O well I'm wating for a call back from my computer guy with my new set up so I might be out of the game for a couple of days, But I will still bug you all on my laptop . |
News just in, Tech support is no help!! Big surprise there. I am very jealous though about the upgrades. I may doing the same here shortly. Time to give JD a call 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Yea, technical support working properly is like microsoft making a bug-free un-hacked piece of software... Its never going to happen. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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It has something todo with the agp driver I have updated it to several different drivers but nothing seems to work.
It loads all the way untill it starts to load windows. I wached to see what happens when I have the ATI 7200 in and start up in safe mode and it loads about 50 drivers than when I have the ATI 9600 in. I think thats where the problem is for some reason it is causing a conflict and won't let all the drivers load.
I also tried to enable the onboard AGP and it says it can't find enough resources so that might be it as well there are not enough resouces left and I have no Idea how to change thoughs.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I also tried to enable the onboard AGP and it says it can't find enough resources so that might be it as well there are not enough resouces left and I have no Idea how to change thoughs. |
That was the exact same error I got when I first installed my 9600xt. The only way to solve it and the only way for many others to solve it was to re-install XP. If you are going to upgrade, you will be doing that anyways. Pain in the ass, I know. I have a VIA chipset, not SIS. So, I am not sure if this will work for you. It is worth a shot. Just load the video driver and see if it boots up after the fresh install. If it doesn't, go no further. If you bought an ATI brand card, do not use the drivers on the disk they gave you. Grab the new Catalyst drivers from the site. I personally use the Omega drivers. They seem to have a bit more performance.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Potato-VS- wrote: | | Yea, technical support working properly is like microsoft making a bug-free un-hacked piece of software... Its never going to happen. |
Well Microsoft isn't the only software maker that has bugs in their software, and Microsoft will never make an unhacked piece of software...in fact no one will
So enough with the bashing of Microsoft, I tried the latest version of Mandrake Linux (OK ill admit, its a newbie version of Linux) and it had plenty o' bugs, so GJ to open source...
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I was thinking of getting this card But it is the 256meg model temporarely untill I can get MY new cpu together I went shopping around today and I'm debating a amd 64 3400 or a p4 3.2 so I'm going all the way this time . By what I am hearing the AMD 64 is out doing the P4 on gaming but the P4 is all around better system and all it's going to be for is gaming and I have this one to do what ever else I want to do. I lost my paper with all the list of parts so when I find it I will post it up see what everyone thinks. Anyways here's the link to the card but the one i'm looking at is a 256 meg model.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=686481&Sku=C460-8002&CatId=319
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Can you boot in safe mode?
Try another slot on your mother board?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| _-=Did It Hurt=-_ wrote: | Back to topic :
Can you boot in safe mode?
Try another slot on your mother board? |
He already said no safe mode, and its an AGP card and the mobo should only have one AGP slot.
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OK I got a FX5200PCI 256 anyone know of any fps tweaks for it ?
My Fps is lower than my ATI 7200 pci 32 meg
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, i had probs with my 9700 pro and it was a directx9 conflict and the latest drivers at the time.i actually had to go to an earlier driver to get it to work then when directx 9b came out i was able to update my vid drivers. don`t quote me on this because this was awhile back for me. to bad u couldn`t get it to work. 
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| Quote: | | OK I got a FX5200PCI 256 anyone know of any fps tweaks for it ? |
Here is a link to an overclocking utility. It is called Rivatuner. Don't blow your card up.  http://majorgeeks.com/download737.html Other than that, set vsync to always off, maybe scale back the visual settings. Not sure if the pci bus could be a little bottleneck compared to the agp.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| Smegma wrote: | | , i had probs with my 9700 pro and it was a directx9 conflict and the latest drivers at the time.i actually had to go to an earlier driver to get it to work then when directx 9b came out i was able to update my vid drivers. don`t quote me on this because this was awhile back for me. to bad u couldn`t get it to work. |
i'm gonna quote you on that. i had the same prob and installing the old drivers fixed it. but that was a long time ago.
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