Setback for the RIAA

Azrael · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:24 am Post subject: Setback for the RIAA

Appeals Ruling

So an appeals court has ruled the RIAA's tactics for filing lawsuits are illegal. Now we can all DL in peace!

j/k I know no one here would ever do anything like that at all!!
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FragFailure · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:45 am Post subject:

damnit, I started buying cd's again.
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Pornstar · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:21 am Post subject:

ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:45 am Post subject:

I have not yet...well ok two...damn does that count...

I wish this would straighten out becuause I sure like a few more...

Is there a way to tell if a record company does not belong to the RIAA?
Then maybe we that are not buying could buy some again.
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cmon · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:05 am Post subject:

I think I saw Azreal post about some kids stealing food at a college or something. It is amazing how people(even myself) justify downloading music/movies from the internet. Have we no moral fiber?! If the RIAA would just invest some of their time and energy into reshaping the music industry so that it would be easier to download a good quality song for a small fee than to download a possibly crappy one for free, the world would be a much better place! They might even find the time to begin pushing the "pirate" nations such as China to start cracking down on illegal copying and distribution. Will that happen? Not too soon since they(the music industry) has been very reluctant to give up their distribution model. I was talking with my nephew the other night and he is on the brink of getting high speed internet and is just gushing with the anticipation of downloading all of this music. In an attempt to be the good uncle I questioned the legality and described how some people have already had lawsuits filed against them and his reply was...."Everyone at my school is doing it!".(He will someday be a lawyer, because he will argue anything....) I know he is still quite young and naive, but this is the mentality used for a lot of social problems too!

I could go on and on I guess, so I'll stop here and just hope that the RIAA will find a way to make it easier to buy than to steal.(don't forget that there are artists locked inside the RIAA's cage and they might not get a ton of profit from their own work, but they do get some and I for one am happy to pay for good quality recordings of good quality songs)

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Pornstar · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:08 am Post subject:

Azrael · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:06 am Post subject:

actually cmon, I don't dl music anymore. When I did dl music, it was usually groups who had provided their music for dl, or explicitly authorized it. you'll find that alot of indie type stuff is done that way. I just found that it was easier for me to get cds of stuff I really wanted, and I try and support my favorite bands, none of whom are linked to the RIAA anyways. Besides, who wants to DL some crappy ass 96 kbps crapshoot, instead of having their own cd quality music? Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people who DL, I seem to remember a study being done that showed people who did dl music were more likely to buy a cd than those who don't. I'm not sure if that is true, but having taken a look at my own buying habits, I noticed that some of my favorite bands ( Flogging Molly, No Use For a Name, Fugazi, Rancid), all came to me through filesharing. Some friend would come over and tell me to dl this song or that song, so I'd listen to it, decided I loved them, and went out and bought their cds. For some of the bands, I bought all their cds, not all at once though, cause then I'd be poor

. Another nice thing I like about DIY type bands is that their stuff is usually waaaaay cheaper to buy. I mean seriously, why buy a cd with 2 songs you like, and 10 you don't, for 18.99 (Standard going rate at my local shop), when you can get a comp from Fat Wreck Chords with 22 songs, 14 of which you like, for 8.99? In short, I think the recording industry needs to take a serious look at itself, and the prices it charges, for the reasons on why record sales suck so badly. As long as things stay the way they are, I don't think we'll see any kind of resolution to this problem.
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osiris · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:43 am Post subject:

its sorta liek the war on drugs, you have one side tryin to get rid of it, and the other supportin it, as long as you have that differnce between both sides there was always be pirating problems. I for 1 have no problem d/lin and burning my own CD's infact i havent boughten a CD in a looong time

John Doe · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:19 pm Post subject:

Did you know that its legal to download MP3's in Canada? They have levys on CDR's and MP3 players to collect cash for the artists so MP3's are fine up here.....Cept its still illegal to upload em.
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YourPowersAreWeakOldMan · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:38 am Post subject:

When I heard this RIAA news on the radio this mornign I literally danced around like a leperchan..Then I laughed maniacally as the RIAA was Neutered. Waahaha HAhaha Haww crush those Gestapo RIAA bastids and light a CherryBomb in their jockstrap.

Not only that but they were then kicked in the groin and had salt rubbed in their eyes.....

The Supreme Court of the Netherlands has ruled that P2P software such as Kazaa is legal. In doing so, they rejected the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry's (IFPI) demands that Kazaa distribution be stopped and its owners (Sharman Networks) forced to pay royalties for the files transfered on their network. The IFPI also wanted the Kazaa's code modified to filter out copyrighted material.

"The victory by Kazaa creates an important precedent for the legality of peer-to-peer software, both in the European Union as elsewhere," Kazaa's lawyers Bird & Bird said in a statement. The decision by the Dutch court, the highest European body yet to rule on file-sharing software, means that the developers of the software cannot be held liable for how individuals use it. It does not address issues over individuals' use of such networks.

Mike · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 9:51 am Post subject:

Paddyjack · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:00 am Post subject:

The other day, I wanted to listen to "She hates me" from Puddle of Mud. All the copies I DLed were corrupted. I gave up, and didn't buy the CD anyway.

Music industry seems to think that every song DLed would have been bought. Ha!
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ProudWhiteTrash · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:48 am Post subject:

I find it funny that in a country based on freedom your cable company has to go to court to protect your privacy.

For me if it were not for various internet based download sources I would have no music or movies. I refuse to spend my money to suporting union breaking, price fixing, con artists. If you do concider downloading music stealing I say good job, you choose to steal from a group of companies that truly deserve it.
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omgshovelyouinthebutt? · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:26 pm Post subject:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/RIAA_PSA.mpg

lol

little bit of violence in that, but its a good warning to u hoodlums and your downloading!

[NoClan]Lunt · Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:53 pm Post subject:

when FOCUS' band (Cixelsyd - pronounced six el syd) release their album "Surveying sucks", you beyatches better buy instead of hackin it........

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