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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Darng! I tried to be clear

Ok. All you have to understand Blue, is that I own you on the server. 'nuff said


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Darng! I tried to be clear

Ok. All you have to understand Blue, is that I own you on the server. 'nuff said


And you just had to say it twice didn't you didn't you didn't you
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Ruler wrote:
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Darng! I tried to be clear

Ok. All you have to understand Blue, is that I own you on the server. 'nuff said


Paddyjack wrote:


Darng! I tried to be clear

Ok. All you have to understand Blue, is that I own you on the server. 'nuff said


And you just had to say it twice didn't you didn't you didn't you


I wanted to make sure I was clear
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blue Ruler wrote:
Paddyjack wrote:


Darng! I tried to be clear

Ok. All you have to understand Blue, is that I own you on the server. 'nuff said


Paddyjack wrote:


Darng! I tried to be clear

Ok. All you have to understand Blue, is that I own you on the server. 'nuff said


And you just had to say it twice didn't you didn't you didn't you


I wanted to make sure I was clear



what is clear is no matter what you believe this whole crazy place is pretty fantastic.
When I think about the difference between creation and evolution, I can only surmise they both make perfect...(non) sense!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what is clear is no matter what you believe this whole crazy place is pretty fantastic.
When I think about the difference between creation and evolution, I can only surmise they both make perfect...(non) sense!



When it comes to me and Blue, it is only about destruction, not creation
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When it comes to me and Blue,


In english speaking Canuckistan that would be Blue and I,

So the phrase should read:

When it comes to Blue and I,

I have to tell these kids everything, well almost everything

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Ruler wrote:
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When it comes to me and Blue,


In english speaking Canuckistan that would be Blue and I,

So the phrase should read:

When it comes to Blue and I,

I have to tell these kids everything, well almost everything

Walks away shaking head and rubbing chin mubbling something about the utilization of ramses :::


Bah, the only true language is french anyway...

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Walks away shaking head and rubbing chin mubbling something about the utilization of ramses :::


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously they are behind on the evolution thing......
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When it comes to me and Blue, it is only about destruction, not creation


isn't thata ctually correct? the only way i remember checking was to take out the other person so if he had said

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When it comes to me , it is only about destruction, not creation

that sounds right... or at least mreo so than.

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When it comes I, it is only about destruction, not creation


so as far as i can tell... he was right and blue is wrong, nyaaa
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here I will tell you the story of the Hemoglobin-S allele, which is a spectacular exemple of evolution in population.


Actually Paddy, what you're describing is not evolution, but rather natural selection (not the mod!) In this case, the Hemoglobin-S gene makes the species more fit to survive in a hostile environment, and those without it die off. Evolution is the process of mutation over tens or hundreds of millenia, where natural selection can take less than one to take effect.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here I will tell you the story of the Hemoglobin-S allele, which is a spectacular exemple of evolution in population.


Actually Paddy, what you're describing is not evolution, but rather natural selection (not the mod!) In this case, the Hemoglobin-S gene makes the species more fit to survive in a hostile environment, and those without it die off. Evolution is the process of mutation over tens or hundreds of millenia, where natural selection can take less than one to take effect.



To further illustrate the difference between natural selection and evolution...Which method explains why mans arms are just long enough to reach their crotch?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warhammer wrote:
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Here I will tell you the story of the Hemoglobin-S allele, which is a spectacular exemple of evolution in population.


Actually Paddy, what you're describing is not evolution, but rather natural selection (not the mod!) In this case, the Hemoglobin-S gene makes the species more fit to survive in a hostile environment, and those without it die off. Evolution is the process of mutation over tens or hundreds of millenia, where natural selection can take less than one to take effect.


i was wondering where paddy was going with that post


but anyways the only reason i brought this up is because in one of my classes we have a discussion on a topic the teacher picks and it was on racism. i was just trying to figure out why ppl think they are superior to another race when in fact we are all the same species i mean we all have our str and weakness and it is best suited for our environment. but back to the many question i finally came up with is why is tehre racism i know why ppl say they hate a race or why they think they are better but i just want to know why human beings think they are better than another race. does evolution cause this to try to diminish the population of humans on the earth down to a number that would suit the planet better. is it part of a gene that makes us warlike? i mean i have many more theories but i am starting to get sleepy cause its 230 am so if i get up and have time ill write down some more. night all and thanks


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warhammer wrote:
Paddyjack wrote:
Here I will tell you the story of the Hemoglobin-S allele, which is a spectacular exemple of evolution in population.


Actually Paddy, what you're describing is not evolution, but rather natural selection (not the mod!) In this case, the Hemoglobin-S gene makes the species more fit to survive in a hostile environment, and those without it die off. Evolution is the process of mutation over tens or hundreds of millenia, where natural selection can take less than one to take effect.


Natural selection and evolution are closely linked. You can't have natural selection without the acquisition of mutations. And mutations cannot be kept in a population if they are not transmited.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but anyways the only reason i brought this up is because in one of my classes we have a discussion on a topic the teacher picks and it was on racism. i was just trying to figure out why ppl think they are superior to another race when in fact we are all the same species i mean we all have our str and weakness and it is best suited for our environment. but back to the many question i finally came up with is why is tehre racism i know why ppl say they hate a race or why they think they are better but i just want to know why human beings think they are better than another race. does evolution cause this to try to diminish the population of humans on the earth down to a number that would suit the planet better. is it part of a gene that makes us warlike? i mean i have many more theories but i am starting to get sleepy cause its 230 am so if i get up and have time ill write down some more. night all and thanks


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Actually, this does not only apply to racism.... it applies mainly to differences. I cant tell you that french and english canadians at some point in history were disliking each other very much, and we are both white. Sometimes, the way people are living their lives, their culture, may seems alien to another culture, and you distrust that. Black and whites were another exemple.

But even more than that, you have to look into history. African blacks were seen like non-human, barbarians, by the british nobility when they explored Africa. Of course, civilisation was less advanced with them, so it did not help the perception, and white men saw themselves as "superiors". Then there was the slavery in America. It didn't help either.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Warhammer wrote:
Paddyjack wrote:
Here I will tell you the story of the Hemoglobin-S allele, which is a spectacular exemple of evolution in population.


Actually Paddy, what you're describing is not evolution, but rather natural selection (not the mod!) In this case, the Hemoglobin-S gene makes the species more fit to survive in a hostile environment, and those without it die off. Evolution is the process of mutation over tens or hundreds of millenia, where natural selection can take less than one to take effect.


i was wondering where paddy was going with that post


but anyways the only reason i brought this up is because in one of my classes we have a discussion on a topic the teacher picks and it was on racism. i was just trying to figure out why ppl think they are superior to another race when in fact we are all the same species i mean we all have our str and weakness and it is best suited for our environment. but back to the many question i finally came up with is why is tehre racism i know why ppl say they hate a race or why they think they are better but i just want to know why human beings think they are better than another race. does evolution cause this to try to diminish the population of humans on the earth down to a number that would suit the planet better. is it part of a gene that makes us warlike? i mean i have many more theories but i am starting to get sleepy cause its 230 am so if i get up and have time ill write down some more. night all and thanks


peace and good night


Racism seems to me like an attempt at superiority. Throughout history, and still today, we have seen many a people try to gain control, take power, and generally be a ruler of some sort. Discrimination altogether is a powerful tool to do so.

Slavery gave the feeling of power to the masses. Without work, or payment to the employed, people were able to gain a hefty profit. People also had the ability to command others without fear of prosecution.

People also use racism as a method of understanding, rather than actually search into the subject, even though such thoughts have been proven wrong today. When people first ventured to Africa, for example, they saw the Africans as barbarians, as Paddy pointed out. Immediately, people assumed that the Africans were inferiors to themselves. How could something that hunts with a spear and has such poor living conditions possibly be equal to themselves? The notable difference in skin tone also fueled these ideas. I can only assume that they asked themselves, "Why would God create an inferior people that look the same as ourselves?" Having creatures such as the Africans as slaves did not seem morally wrong to them, so they shipped them off to be used as in that manner.

To me, it all comes down to corrupt superiority and leadership.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've read/seen on TV that it takes about 60,000 years to change a humans skin color due to climate. How they know this I do not know.
but underneath that skin we are all basicly equal assholes.


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