Matrix Revolutions (DON'T READ IF U HAVENT SEEN)

Darkath · Last edited by Darkath on Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:10 am; edited 1 time in total

Just a random post I thought I would make to find out how you guys liked it.

Being a hardcore Matrix fan, I loved the movie, and would have still loved it even if it was one of the worst movies ever made. The critics did give 'Revolutions' some harsh reviews, and some of what they said was true. Reloaded built up Revolutions to be this huge finale, and it did fall short a bit. The fight scene with Smith at the end was nice but short, and in general, a little too much talking took place. The whole Zion battle was just amazing, not a dull moment there. Part of the thrill of seeing the Matrix for me at least is being as confused as a mildly retarded chimpanzee when it ends. I felt Revolutions overexplained some things about what happened in Reloaded, and if you've seen Revolutions, I thought it left you hanging at the end just like Reloaded did, and you stare in confusion with a big 'WTF!?' on your forehead when it ends.

I think Revolutions could have been much better if the Wachoski brothers spent a little more time on the Revolutions script. I think Reloaded and Revolutions were spaced so close together, it seems things were rushed, and because Reloaded and Revolutions was one movie chopped into two, it seems they added many last minute script filling ideas just to finish Revolutions.

BTW, did anyone go see it @ 6 AM like I did?

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Negative Creep · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Matrix Revolutions

Chen Kenichi · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:15 pm Post subject:

I thought Reloaded was freakin awesome, and I don't buy into Hollywood BS. I was actually expecting a let-down from what people told me, but I came out of the theaters hyped and ready to see it again. I actually got into a short convo on TV6 this evening about why Reloaded sucked, and the only reason he gave was that the rave scene was stupid.... ok, whatever. I really liked the storyline, and the stunts they're pulling off is pioneering a new frontier. I really couldn't have expected much better. Plus the whole fight series starting with Neo killing the people in the weapon room and ending with the trucks exploding simply owns, especially on an IMAX screen. =)

I plan on seeing Revolutions this weekend on IMAX again.
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Secret Agent Man · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:36 am Post subject:

all i can say with the last 2 movies.. iw as disappointed.. they didnt live up to the first one.... I wanted a better ending.. but true.. how often do you see the main characters die at the end? kinda sad... Yeah they skip alot.... but i remember in the 2nd movie... didnt it end.. with some guy in the ship saying.. that when they got to zion... "it wasnt a battle.. it was a massicure.... we only found 1 surviver". I dont get how they got to zion in time.. i thought hte battle was already over.....and that they were the only ones left.... also...

i know its just a movie.. but man i feel sorry for the reload guys for the APU's..... once you go out.. you aint comin back.... poor guys... and those sentnals really screwed you up too... they would grab your face and f you up.... how sad...

i wanted a better "happy ending" and to show at least the future....
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FragFailure · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:40 am Post subject:

It's kinda cool that they made the evil side unbeatable

1. Main characters died
2. Only with the help of one evil were they able to save Zion
3. Only with Neo giving himself up did they have a chance

However...

1. The blatant bastardizing of the Borg (Smith) really sucked
2. The way Neo gave himself to Smith was already done on three occasions on Star Trek. I felt like I saw Picard as Lucutus and especially Janeway uploading a virus to herself TWICE to defeat the Borg in the same exact manner that Neo defeated Smith.
3. The ending was garbage and ruined much of the buildup

Because of the ending being brief I left feeling like the movie got cut ten minutes short.

Five weeks until LOTR III. This means I need to brush up on Fellowship and Two Towers. Shrek 2 actually looks pretty funny too.
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PondScm007 · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:53 am Post subject:

mmm im taking a short road trip to another state with some people to go see it on IMAX... ooh yeah.. im still debating whether to see it first in a regular theater though, but im thinking not
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Mr.Kason Allen · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:44 pm Post subject:

Im going to see it Tommorow after school with a friend...tee hee hee

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omgshovelyouinthebutt? · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:26 pm Post subject:

Shovles thoughts:

1st Matrix was the best, hands down.

2nd Matrix was meh, not too teh shabby

3rd Matrix = No Dice

Yes they had pretty graphics, and the Zion battle was pretty cool, but i was disapointed, just didnt seem right.

Needless to say, Matrix had a good run. Was qutie a phenomenon, but all good thigns must come to an end... it is inevitable.

Edit: Some tid bits of info, obviously this info is rather old, but think about when Keanu had to say good-bye to trinity, i bet that really hit home...

Violent Pacifist · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:42 pm Post subject:

OMG YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS. Revolutions completely blows the first two movies away. I don't understand how anyone can see the movie and say it was a disappointment. It had more action than the first two, a great story, and NOT AS MUCH TALKING AS THE OTHERS--you people saying they talked too much need to watch the other movies again. They do so much more talking in them it's unreal.

I also don't understand how you can say "they explained too much in this one", and then say that the ending didn't make sense. The ending was brilliant, and made perfect sense. BTW, what you saw at the end WAS the new matrix. Honestly you people need to listen to what they say. The dialogue isn't simply placed there to take up space.
Smith died because by taking over Neo, he was returned directly to the source (the thing that Neo was plugged into), and therefore deleted. Neo saved the machine world, and in return the machines spared the human world. The source was able to take control of the matrix again with the deletion of Smith, and afterwards recreated it. With the peace between the machines and humans, he allowed every human plugged into the matrix the choice of rejecting it and returning to Zion. As you could tell, the architect was somewhat peeved off by this none the less, and didn't think peace would last. This makes sense if you remember the oracle saying that he couldn't see past a choice he didn't understand, and that because his purpose is what it is, he will never be able to understand it. Another thing that requires thought to understand is the newly created colors in the sky. In the beginning, the little girl was being smuggled to the matrix because she didn't have a purpose. By creating what she did for Neo she had also created a purpose for herself, and no longer would have to be an "exile". The asian guy is there because he follows the oracle everywhere.

If you actually took the time to think about it, the ending wasn't just a scene put in there to be called an ending. They showed you the new matrix, explained that the humans and machines were at peace, explained what would happen to all humans plugged into the matrix, and added a few extra things in as well.

Because I feel some unexplainable purpose to do so, I will answer some of your questions.

Neo could destory the machines because they were programs from the source. He was able to destroy them in the same way he was able to beat up agents. However, in his world, the machines can be completely destroyed. Neo was able to destroy so many because all the little tiny ones were simply bombs. If you paid attention, Trinity had to pull up because Neo couldn't destroy the sentinals.

Trinity couldn't brake the Logos because pulling all the way up stalled the craft. She was flying a hovercraft, and up in the clouds there isn't anything to hover on.

Would protective armor really help the APU's? The sentinals can brake through glass and metal, as well as melt it with a laser beam if it is necessary.

BTW, there weren't 5 matrix's before Neo. There were 5 other "one's". The matrix was only recreated once.

BTW BTW....errr, negative creep...To date, I have never seen an all-out kung-fu movie with a good storyline or actors. Kung-fu movies are based soully on action, which is why I love them.
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Chen Kenichi · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:15 pm Post subject:

What VP said
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Darkath · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:14 am Post subject:

Noticed two interesting things when I saw it again:

1. In the hell club, the whole nipple-twisting thing. It looked pretty kinky

2. Spotted a movie mistake. After Rama Khandra (spelling?) gets on the train, he leaves behind one of his bags, the one Neo tried to carry on. The camera shows Neo right before he jumps down onto the tracks, and you can see the briefcase/bag. When Neo runs into the darkness, and comes out the other end, the briefcase isn't there anymore.
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