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Darkath Registered User
Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 639
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:14 am Post subject: Some rules for the RIAA |
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Yeah so me and warpig after reading Species' post made a little list for the RIAA
If you could, please e-mail this to everyone you know
Keep in mind this was an email we sent to the RIAA using our fake hotmail account (fux0r_u_riaa@hotmail.com ) in case the wording confuses you
Enjoy, and download lots of music
OK, here's some ground rules for you to follow
1. People don't like paying 20$ for a CD, that's why CD sales have gone down. Place yourself in this situation: Either a.) pay 20 bucks for a CD with max of 3 songs I'll listen to or b.) Download KaZaA for free and download all the songs I want for free. Doesn't take a degree in quantum physics to figure out which one people will choose.
2. People know that CDs aren't worth what they are selling for. Maybe back int he 1980's it costed more to make the CDs, but nowadays, you can get 100 blank CD-Rs for 20 bucks. Lower your prices.
3. I will bet the person who reads this 20 bucks that some child of some high exectuive at the RIAA uses KaZaA. Why don't you sue them, huh? That's what I thought
4. The RIAA is not a dictatorship, so stop acting like it. People will transfer files over the internet no matter how much you investigate them, so stop denying the inevitable. In fact, going after people who use file-sharing programs will only worsen the situation. You know how if you tell a person not to do something, they do it anyway? Chances are, they will do it just to spite you.
5. Suing people is not good business, contrary to what you might "believe", most people won't buy CDs anymore because you sue them, or anyone they know.
6. Big businesses suing individual American citizens generally pisses people off
7. Contrary to what your financial advisors may be telling you, your profit margins do not suck balls
8. The only way to win this situation is to embrace peer-to-peer technologies. Think of all the money you could save by advertising on music websites, or on file sharing programs, rather than on T.V., or radio, etc. And think of how more convinient is it to download an album from your computer than to have to drive to a music store and buy the album. How about creating your own peer-to-peer network that charges people for every song they download? That would probably make you mucho dinero
9. For every person you sue, you lose their business, plus most of their friends, because no one wants to do business with a bunch of assholes
10. F$%^ you
I put on my robe and wizard hat har _________________
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DaKon Ville Supporter
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Apple has some sort of music dowload online for $0.99 per song...to say the least it aint doing crap for profits.
BTW very good post bro _________________ P4E @ 4.00 Ghz, LeadTech 6800GT 420mhz/1.16Ghz, 1 gb Corsair PC 4400, Creative X-fi, Raptor
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Darkath Registered User
Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 639
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:30 am Post subject: |
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DK wrote: | Apple has some sort of music dowload online for $0.99 per song...to say the least it aint doing crap for profits. |
True, but only 3% of all computer users in the U.S. are Macs. Think if all the PC users had the iTunes service. They would make a lil more money _________________
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powdermilkman Diplomat
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Location: Good Ole Jackson, MS Posts: 1790
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:28 am Post subject: |
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The PC version of Apples music sharing thingy is due out late this year. |
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5th GHG E.G. Mine Registered User
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Location: Transcending 1337. Posts: 1426
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:58 am Post subject: |
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I actually wouldn't mind that, as long as I know the songs are exactly the songs I want and are of a good (not just decent, good) listening quality. I hate getting the wrong song, a song that ends early, or a crappy quality song. _________________ http://www.chronixradio.com |
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Chan Registered User
Joined: 01 Nov 2001 Location: In a pool of cess Posts: 2311
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:02 am Post subject: |
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I hate people that can spend money like it doesn't matter.....
BTW Macs suck and music should be free or else they need to stop the radio from playing anything. Blank tapes and blank VHS tape all need to be destroyed if they want to stop people from copying _________________
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FragFailure Registered User
Joined: 12 Aug 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4219
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:28 am Post subject: |
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They tried to stop VHS cassettes and audio cassettes when they came out.
Apple's prices per mp3 is no deal at all. It makes no sense. Anyone know what their bitrates are on Apple? Either way it's bieng setup to fail so someone can say "It doesn't work." Try 39 cents per mp3 and see if it changes things. _________________ Yes, I'm still around
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Usually Dead Registered User
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 680
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:46 am Post subject: |
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I know it's a big issue about American mainstream popular music, where you can either buy a $20 CD with 13 songs (4 of which are good), or download all the songs you want from WINMX or KaZaA.
But for me and others who like certian instrumental kinds of music (video game soundtracks, even if you don't play the game), it's not a matter of buying the album over downloading it. In most cases you CAN'T get the album becuase it simply isn't available. You practically have to live in Japan to get any of those soundtracks.
Thankfully, there are FTP services that host huge amounts of great quality music. Video game music isn't ALL I listen to, but I like quite a bit of it, so I'm thankful for certian sites that host it.
So I guess I'm trying to say, there will always be peole sharing music rather than buying it. Now that peer-to-peer file sharing is here, it's not going anywhere.
(Whew, long post.) _________________
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YourPowersAreWeakOldMan Registered User
Joined: 20 Aug 2001 Location: Houston Texas USA Posts: 1745
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 7:47 am Post subject: |
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FragFailure wrote: | They tried to stop VHS cassettes and audio cassettes when they came out.
Apple's prices per mp3 is no deal at all. It makes no sense. Anyone know what their bitrates are on Apple? Either way it's bieng setup to fail so someone can say "It doesn't work." Try 39 cents per mp3 and see if it changes things. |
They are 128 bitrate Frag..
I had a whole huge post written out about this, as I follow it intently being as this could be the gateway for human rights on the internet. If the RIAA wins and gets to impose laws and the bill in the house passes making it a felony to share music online, then what about other companies who want to restrict anything else we do online. Not to mention the government. It would be a free for all for them and the destruction of the internet as we know it. Think about it, the government likes to do shit like that, and now the movie/video/tv industy wants to jump on the RIAA bandwagon.
The internet is the present day Wild West. There are still very few laws and restrictions in it. It's vast and a fertile place for ideas, business, and community. It's a true forum of freedom and speech, one of the last ones that's almost totally unrestricted...We can't let the government or big business love it all up for us by moving in and ruining it forever. _________________ World of Warcraft:
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Pornstar Registered User
Joined: 12 Aug 2001 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 1153
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Usually Dead wrote: | I know it's a big issue about American mainstream popular music, where you can either buy a $20 CD with 13 songs (4 of which are good), or download all the songs you want from WINMX or KaZaA.
But for me and others who like certian instrumental kinds of music (video game soundtracks, even if you don't play the game), it's not a matter of buying the album over downloading it. In most cases you CAN'T get the album becuase it simply isn't available. You practically have to live in Japan to get any of those soundtracks.
Thankfully, there are FTP services that host huge amounts of great quality music. Video game music isn't ALL I listen to, but I like quite a bit of it, so I'm thankful for certian sites that host it.
So I guess I'm trying to say, there will always be peole sharing music rather than buying it. Now that peer-to-peer file sharing is here, it's not going anywhere.
(Whew, long post.) |
I listen primarily to Classical and Techno. Most Classical CDs cost $2-$3 bucks and have like 25 great pieces on them. As far as Techno goes the only way to get it is to download it. And DJs don't care. They make their money DJing. Downloading their music is just a free way for them to advertise.
Your are right about this opening a whole new can of worms Oldman. Another community that I belong to freerepublic.com is worried that if the RIAA prevails then the print media will come after thoughs that copy and past articles into forums for others to comment on. Some of these articles come from pay sites like the Wall Street Journal or come from sites that don't charge, YET. But coping and pasting it is technically copyright infringement. The RIAA and the record labels that it represents are a failed business model, which is why they are lashing out like this. Its like a Dictator on his last thread, but doesn't know it because he is blinded by the flattering of his YES men. |
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FragFailure Registered User
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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128 bit rate is awful unless necessary. Apple should be running it with 192 CBR (Constant Bit Rate) or at a VBR rate (like emusic) at about 85-95% of CD quality. BRN hates me now since I told him about 128 bit rate when he encodes. He's now at 192. I encode mostly in VBR at 95-100% of CD quality. _________________ Yes, I'm still around
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Darkath Registered User
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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FragFailure wrote: | BRN hates me now since I told him about 128 bit rate when he encodes. He's now at 192 |
What's so bad about 128? I can't really tell the difference between the two, except the difference in file size _________________
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Krauty Registered User
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2003 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I listen to techno too, and the only way i can find it is to go to some big music store...but even then they only have the mainstream stuff that can sound a little weird. Im into the european techno....so why not just d/l it and save me money and time...i dont want to buy a techno cd that ive never heard and end up not playing it again. Then again, i dont want to buy a cd if i have the mp3...it only takes minutes to burn and i can listen to it on the way to work (plus, like what was said, most dont care...they will even have it up for d/l on their website). Most of them are 128kbps, so they still have good quality, i feel that anything less is just crappy. oh btw, techno fans www.digitallyimported.com (internet radio at 128kbps and lower) if you didnt already know _________________ "I think it's dumb when people say video games affect kids negatively, I mean, if Pac-Man affected us, we'd all be hanging out in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music...." (Trance)
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SpeCies Registered User
Joined: 05 Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Guild: <TVB> Posts: 1948
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:19 am Post subject: |
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I would like too see and hear the response from these idiots after reading this. |
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Pornstar Registered User
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:28 am Post subject: |
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DxM-Kraut |VsS| wrote: | I listen to techno too, and the only way i can find it is to go to some big music store...but even then they only have the mainstream stuff that can sound a little weird. Im into the european techno....so why not just d/l it and save me money and time...i dont want to buy a techno cd that ive never heard and end up not playing it again. Then again, i dont want to buy a cd if i have the mp3...it only takes minutes to burn and i can listen to it on the way to work (plus, like what was said, most dont care...they will even have it up for d/l on their website). Most of them are 128kbps, so they still have good quality, i feel that anything less is just crappy. oh btw, techno fans www.digitallyimported.com (internet radio at 128kbps and lower) if you didnt already know |
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Thank You for that website. Its hard to find good techno sites that have good music. The local techno radio station here plays a bunch of fluffy dance crap. |
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