This is getting old

Paddyjack · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:15 pm Post subject:

I think the only time you can be honestly angry with people stacking a team is when they are uneven. Other than that, I don't believe that players conciously "stack" a team of superheroes against noobs. On the other hand, you have friends, and it happens you want to play with them. In DoD, it happens that sometime I join a server, and if the teams are 7-7, then I will join the team with Shockwave or Sgt Zer() on it, because I like to communicate with them while playing (they are kind enough to bear my french accent...

). However I will usually switch if teams become uneven.

The thing is, I will often wait until my next death though, because if I'm in the middle of a run and planning to screw Blue Ruler or Nuclei by taking them unaware, I won't die at this point and remove losing that fun on this run. And if by the time I die somebody switched then it is all well and good.

And to add a comment regarding the players Bada Bing mentioned, it is true for Dahak and Mike Rotch, but there are a lot more players with the same class on the servers, like Blue Ruler, Nuclei, Shockwave, BRN, Sgt Zer() to name a few, players which never do bad things, always play fair and switch when needed. And there are others than those I mentioned. But even with these players on a server, it happens a team get crushed anyway, simply by lack of coordination.
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Blue Ruler · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:46 pm Post subject:

Paddyjack · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 1:11 pm Post subject:

Kjeldorian Royal Guard 42 · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 2:29 pm Post subject:

The skill level has risen here.

Dramatically so in the past several months.

These are not servers for "noobs" to come and learn now.

A couple elite players vs handfull of newcomers stacks a team. There are more serious competing groups/people here than ever before so you will continue to see this.

New people will not stay in that environment.

It's no one person or group you can point a finger at. It's the way The Ville has become. "The people" make this place what it is. The majority of those "people" take this game more serious than the minority so you now have more serious gameplay than you did say. . .this time last year.

Even if people are aware and try to keep the teams even, there is going to be stacked teams. You have some people who just want to lay back and play the game and you have some that want to jam a flag down your throat.

It's "I just want to play" vs "I know HOW to play effectively".

It's the nature of the beast. Even people not affiliated with competing groups have played here so long, they are just damn good. The question isn't who is and who is not team stacking. The question is, who is and who is not caring about new players.

I mean, the only true problem is when new people are on a team against mostly highly competitive regs. You can complain about people complaining or, you can just try to prevent it from happening (in your own way) and support new people/growth.

The people who say team stacking doesn't happen here are more than likely the people who are stacking the teams. Whether they realize it or not.

Constantly beating down on new people or noobs in a pub will cause new people and noobs to stop coming. That prevents growth and promotes linear gameplay. Which I find extremely boring.

On that same note, the game IS old. Not many new people out there. There won't be too many new people to this game. So it makes a lot of sense to treat the few new people that are left with welcome and fairness.

Then again, I could be completely wrong.

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Bada Bing · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 3:16 pm Post subject:

Paddyjack · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject:

Kjeldorian Royal Guard 42 · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 3:33 pm Post subject:

I myself have inadvertantly caused teams to be stacked. It just happens now and then. You can just tell sometimes. You don't even have to look at the score a lot of the times to know it's not even.

The point is, you have to make a conscious effort to avoid doing it. If anyone says, "teams" and you can visibly or even understand that, yes, teams could be more even, just switch.

If teams are even but they are lopsided, try and switch with someone on the opposing team. If the server is full, you just have to risk not getting back in. It's better than half the players having a crappy time the whole map and it's worth the effort.

It's no big thing. If you are a super bad@ss, it shouldn't even phase you to switch to the losing team. If you are a Ville reg, it should actually please you to do it.

Switching in the middle of a stale mate is fun too! It's bizarre when someone key to your D suddenly moves to O on the other team. It keeps things different and not so much the same ole same ole.
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Replica · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:08 pm Post subject:

Whatever · Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:41 pm Post subject:

I am an elite, super, unstoppable, insurmountable bad@ass...

No matter what team I am on, I am always in the top 2 or 3 in deaths! I rule so hard.

#Rofl

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