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My Personal Insanity Registered User

Joined: 03 Mar 2002 Location: Salt Lake City GUILD: US-V Posts: 2627
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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O/~
Everything right is wrong again
Every movement false, every four is waltz again
Every five and dime's been gained and spent
Tell me that you like my float upstream
Draw the line dividing laugh and scream
You know everything that I know so I know
You've heard the voice that makes the silent noise
That says that
Everything that's right is wrong again o/~
Ahem. Anyway, my thoughts on the matter: People like to
play with their friends. No Big Deal. But if the other team
is clearly filled with people that have no idea what they're
doing, change and try to teach/help 'em. t's the friendly thing
to do.  _________________ [url=http://www.surfacezero.net/BottleFairy-Sensei-san(J).mp3] [/url]
aaa, oshiete sensei-san... |
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Bada Bing Registered User

Joined: 17 Sep 2001 Location: Pioneer,Ca. Guild:-TPF- Posts: 3054
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Totally agree with you Simple and BRN it happens alot I use precache so it takes awhile between maps till I join.It saves me lag in game but its amazing when I join and see all the best players stacked on one team with thier super low pings and many times same clan tags.Combo that with lagg I get here and I have more fun playing elsewhere  _________________
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OpTlk Registered User

Joined: 27 Apr 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Guild:=US-V= Posts: 2176
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:11 am Post subject: |
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ok, I inititally posted here because I was on simpleman's team during a round of avanti which probably lead to him making this thread. The teams were uneven and no one on the other team even made an effort to swtich(except for Gurrg)after mentioning it twice...AND REGARDLESS OF WHO THE PLAYER IS OR HIS LEVEL OF SKILL OR HIS FRIENDS ON HIS TEAM you should maybe wait a second to see if someone else goes first and if they dont then why not change?? what does it matter which team you're on?? if you're only reason of playing is to boost your stats or get as many caps as you can...why does it matter which team you do it on??
Im not saying this is a solution to team stacking...with all honesty I dont think there is anything we can do to change it simply because of the level of gameplay here....its definitely above average and a full server is gonna put mayn freinds or clan members on the same team..thats unavoidable and fine...what I would just really like to see is keeping them EVEN for starters. I probably played 3 rounds of the map rotation today and managed to change teams 5-6 times because no one else would even them up. ( to those who care more about always winning or maintaining your precious K that game.) _________________
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Bada Bing Registered User

Joined: 17 Sep 2001 Location: Pioneer,Ca. Guild:-TPF- Posts: 3054
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| John Doe wrote: | The Ville servers have auto team balancing turned on so your forced to a team and the computer tryes to keep them balanced.
If 3 peeps leave then the teams could still be 10-7 and severly lopsided. As new players connect they will fix that balance issue.
Peeps should not spectate as it takes a slot and can lead to imbalanced teams.
Where I see the most imbalances lately are when all the talent is obviously on one team. Of course if the teams have the same number of players then nobody can change to adjust the balance of talent. If an admin is there they can turn off balance or they can force players on to the other team. This is something that I will be doing in the future more to try to level the playing field.
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The problem is JD is that most of the real good players have very fast PC's and connections so they can join whatever team they want when the map changes and this is when you see talent stacked teams on a regular basis I really don't understand if people are going to do that why don't they go play on some league server instead of just romping on people with inferior computers and connections.I guess it makes them feel 1337 or cool or bad ass ROFL  _________________
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Bada Bing Registered User

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Gizanked wrote: | | you'd think it woudl be that way with teams optik.. but sometimes i've seen people on the larger team say "teams" i mean really, why dind't they sjtu switch, nothign too recently but its happened |
Man this is quote city on this thread so many good points made.I see this alot too Giz a couple of the people I'm sad to say I have played many a game with and am friends with but yet they will say "teams' and then wait for an avaerage to decent player to switch 1st cause they don't want to break up there precious winning 1337 team.I mean comon give us all a break does it take talent to win with stacked teams ? No it is a given The only people I can honestly say that will switch teams in a heartbeat is Dahak and MikeRoach That shows true class and talent  _________________
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Replica Server Admin


Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Location: i'm a loner dottie, a rebel! Posts: 6144
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| Bada Bing wrote: | | Gizanked wrote: | | you'd think it woudl be that way with teams optik.. but sometimes i've seen people on the larger team say "teams" i mean really, why dind't they sjtu switch, nothign too recently but its happened |
Man this is quote city on this thread so many good points made.I see this alot too Giz a couple of the people I'm sad to say I have played many a game with and am friends with but yet they will say "teams' and then wait for an avaerage to decent player to switch 1st cause they don't want to break up there precious winning 1337 team.I mean comon give us all a break does it take talent to win with stacked teams ? No it is a given The only people I can honestly say that will switch teams in a heartbeat is Dahak and MikeRoach and Gizanked That shows true class and talent  |
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Spanish Warpig Registered User
Joined: 24 Sep 2001 Location: Portland, OR Guild:<TVB> Posts: 908
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 2:31 am Post subject: |
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honestly i have not noticed any true team stacking for quite awhile now the lopsided scores come from one team being more agressive or that team having 1 person who can single handedly change the flow of the game. personly i see my self as a pretyy good player though i am nowhere near the level of some other people that play here but against a team that does not have a solid set defence i can basicly cap the flag whenever i want. i know that in many games the score has become lopsided just because one player has switched to O.
as for that 120-0 game of warpath that was the result of one team playing a defensive game instead of focusing on capping the flag by looking at the players in that round it did not appear that there was any team stacking. |
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Trigger Happy Registered User

Joined: 12 Jan 2002 Location: East Bay, California Posts: 1687
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 4:59 am Post subject: |
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My turn to throw in my fiddy-foe cents...
Stacked teams I personally do not pay attention to who is highly skilled on my team and what not. I just kill people.
And I remember that game on avanti when we held our own and held the opposing team from capping. But sometimes I really don't pay attention to the logs, I jsut play TFC because I barely do that during the week.
Sometimes when I press the tab button I see teams are 9v10 or 10v9. Are you going to blame me because of me being blind? I don't stack the teams on purpose. In addition I believe its dumb to do that but hey I get my share of butt kicking too.
If you would look at my stats, when I go offense I get killed a lot. I dont' think I'm uber on O, but hey I try because I'm better at D. I guess for those regulars who are highly skilled, try a class you don't know so the team stackage can diminish. Oh well bj for stacked teams I guess...  _________________ I like you---that's why I'm going to kill you last.
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Bright Red Nipples Registered User

Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: at work :s Posts: 7684
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| Spanish Warpig wrote: | | as for that 120-0 game of warpath that was the result of one team playing a defensive game instead of focusing on capping the flag by looking at the players in that round it did not appear that there was any team stacking. |
Having 3 scouts on your team with the ability to conc past the defense made the teams lopsided during that game. Falling back to defense is instinct for most when the enemy is flying by you like that. Back that up with a team that is moving forward and the game is over. If 1 or 2 of those scouts were to change to the other team then that may have changed things a bit. _________________
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Thunder Registered User

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 6:31 am Post subject: |
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2003-05-04 15:06:46 Team I joined team "Blue". TheVille.org I warpath
-This is where someone was going "TEAMS!! TEAMS!!"-
2003-05-04 15:15:42 Team I joined team "Red". TheVille.org I warpath
Having said that....I prefer "blue". Sometimes when I go red I get confused and shoot the wrong people. Out side of that looks to me like plenty of people switch when someone notices teams are uneven.
Like the others have been saying...its just a game don't worry so much. If you need a topic for monday look at the news or tell us a joke...or start some stupid contest we all get addicted to...(Bushido).
If un-even teams is all we have to worry about then I think we're doin ok. _________________ I put on my robe and Wizard's hat!!! HARRRRR |
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ToRaK Registered User

Joined: 08 Feb 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1105
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Whatever team I'm on is going to be stacked so there.... _________________ The most hated.
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`RaphX Registered User
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| None of the njk folk complain about team-stacking. Even after getting dissed 200-0 for the umpteenth time. |
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GellyRoll Registered User

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Replica Server Admin


Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Location: i'm a loner dottie, a rebel! Posts: 6144
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| ToRaK wrote: | | Whatever team I'm on is going to be stacked so there.... |
It's true!!! _________________
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JohnCarterofMars Registered User

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Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 10:33 am Post subject: |
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I say make it random team on the server. Let the server randomly put the players on the team...
I don't want to spend my time trying to get people to be generous, sportsmanlike or just plain considerate, when most of them could care less to start with. Let them care less randomly!  _________________ JohnCarter, Warlord of Mars
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