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Bright Red Nipples Registered User
Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Location: at work :s Posts: 7684
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:05 pm Post subject: 4 bannings on 1 map |
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I had to ban 4 people today on 1 map for respawn camping. That's a new record for me. I warned them, I made it very clear what respawn covered, and they still did it. I had people paranoid thinking they were next. The rules are very clear there. If you need help understanding what these rules are then check the post at the top of this forum.
BRN _________________
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Paddyjack Registered User
Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Location: Québec, Canada Guild: <eVa> Posts: 1722
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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lol
gg BRN
I'm not surprised, the other night ther was that much ppl doing it. I was too pissed off to demo them. _________________ PJ --- ancient IDIOT with a rusty CROWBAR....
but still SWINGING!
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Secret Squirrel 006 Registered User
Joined: 13 Dec 2002 Location: GeOrGiA Posts: 126
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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haha, that's more than a hat trick, some people just don't know the rules , what map was it? _________________
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sgt stutter Server Admin
Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Location: Southern CA Guild: <eVa> & V$ Posts: 2866
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Good job BRN,
The last few days there have been alot of spawn campers, thanks. _________________
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Bright Red Nipples Registered User
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Secret Squirrel 006 wrote: | what map was it? |
Spawncamp heaven, Anzio. And not knowing the rules was not an excuse. I informed everyone of the rules before the banfest started.
The problems you guys were having were probably from these same guys. They hadn't seen me there before, since I haven't been playing during the week, and they probably didn't know the gavel would be dropped down on them. I was actually getting applause in game, it was hilarious.
Paddyjack, get me WonID's if you can. Demos are a great tool but if you can't get that then at least write down the WonID. That way when I catch them, they get no warning just a ban, assuming you had warned them before. _________________
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Typh00n Registered User
Joined: 02 May 2002 Location: ATL Posts: 504
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:36 am Post subject: |
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yeah, i tried to respwn camp there but i suck so i was shot mercylessly |
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Stevo Ville Supporter
Joined: 08 Dec 2002 Location: Orange County Guild: TVR Posts: 9514
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ComradeNachaev Registered User
Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Location: Kingston, Ontario Canada Posts: 12
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi
I am all for fair play!!! That is why I'm with the OwP.
However, I respectfully submit that you might have gotten a tad carried away with bannings last week.
I have a friend whose a newbie to DoD. He generally only plays Caen2 or Avalanche maps. But I was talking with him on the phone last week and invited him to join me at TheVille. The map playing was Anzio.
He came to the server, and was only there for a few minutes before he left. But it turns out he didn't leave voluntarily - he was PERMANENTLY BANNED.
Unfortunatley I think it was BAD TIMING because he probably ended up getting painted with a jacket which other's deserve, but he sure doesn't.
He isn't an exploiter - in fact, he really tries to be a fair player. For example, he never nade spams of Avalanche and gets on teammates who do. He's not a "cheap" player.
He was UNFAMILIAR with Anzio. We were teammates playing Axis. In fact, he'd never been to the window overlooking Anzio beach before. But he ended up there when following me through the building outside the big Allies Beach. He told me he'd never been upstairs before, so he was totally suprised when he went up there and found a window. He looked out it, saw an Allie and shot him. Then he left and when back downstairs. He told me he only shot once out the window.
A very short time later, he was banned. And he said he noticed no warning.
I'm not trying to cause trouble. In fact, I was VERY IMPRESSED with the admining I saw at The Ville. That is why I invited my friend there. He really wasn't trying to exploit, or take cheap shots. He just wasn't aware what he was doing. He is totally unfamiliar with Anzio map.
I hope you might reconsider his banning.
I did a Stats search and this info seems correct for Mamma Jamma:
WON IDs: 3255022
Last Connect:* 12:44:04 PM, Wed. 9th Apr.
But it says the map was Avalanche - it was ANZIO and he'd only been there a few minutes before being banned.
I would like to play at TheVille more often. And if you give Mamma Jamma another chance, I'm sure you'll see he isn't the sort of player who deserves banning. He's really fair to a T. But I warn ya - he's smart, and he's a quick learner. The guy already beats me on Avalance and Caen, and he's only been playing a short while. Of course, beating me ain't that difficult. But at least, he does so FAIRLY.
Cheers! _________________ JointChiefofStaff-[OwP]-DoD |
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Paddyjack Registered User
Joined: 15 Jan 2002 Location: Québec, Canada Guild: <eVa> Posts: 1722
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi there Nachaev,
I think you should post that request on the complaint forum, you can find it on the homepage in the "misc" section. I assure you, this is the quickest way to get your request answered. _________________ PJ --- ancient IDIOT with a rusty CROWBAR....
but still SWINGING!
Rock2..... JUST SAY NO!!!!!
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Stevo Ville Supporter
Joined: 08 Dec 2002 Location: Orange County Guild: TVR Posts: 9514
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Paddyjack wrote: | Hi there Nachaev,
I think you should post that request on the complaint forum, you can find it on the homepage in the "misc" section. I assure you, this is the quickest way to get your request answered. |
^What he said
You can find it on the navigation bar above under Misc., it's the first one on the list. You will have to register to post a complaint, but you get your answers faster because it goes straight to the admins. _________________
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ComradeNachaev Registered User
Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Location: Kingston, Ontario Canada Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys.
Definitely using the complaint process is the way to go. I've done so, and already this morning, gotten a postive reply by email.
For some reason, when I tried replying to it, my response was returned, so I'll just post it below.
Quote: | Hi Bright Red Nipples and The Ville Admins:
Thanks for answering so promptly and thanks for your positive response. I'll definitely let him know you've lifted the ban. And encourage him to be sure an be attentive to the MOTD when he joins in.
Hey Bright Red Nipples, I actually remember you being in the server for some of the time I was playing - as I was playing much longer than Mamma Jamma. You've got one of those names with a high recall value - hehe.
It is clear from reading The Ville's message board that Mamma Jamma and myself just happened to hit the server simultaneously with your having to deal with some jerks who had been deliberately spawn camping, etc. Accordingly, it is understandable that you'd end up inadvertently painting the good apples in with the bad. As I said before, I a ctually remember being impressed with the efforts of the admins to keep the play fair, and the "talk" positive. At the time, I just thought Mamma Jamma had to leave of his own accord, and it wasn't until afterwords that he told me he'd gotten a "perm ban" and we figured out what must have happened.
I appreciate that you could hear what I was saying about Mamma Jamma shooting into the spawn without even realizing he was doing anything wrong - his being almost entirely new to DoD, and Anzio map in particular. When admins crack down assertively, the occassional mistake is bound to happen. However, provided you keep cracking down, over time the bad apples will just go on to find somewhere else to cause problems, whereas the good ones will explain themselves. As is the situation in this instance.
Furthermore, it makes total sense that The Ville wants to crack down hard on the b.s. when your server is just getting up and running. I'm totally in favour of that. And so is Mamma Jamma, btw, as we've talked about it. If you keep making it clear that you won't put up with jerks, then the likelihood of being able to ensure a jerk-free playing server is much higher. I hope you are able to walk that fine line between maintaining control of the server, while still having it filled with lots of players. As you probably know, It takes an active, attentive group of admins to accomplish that.
So... good luck in establishing The Ville as a quality DoD server that's consistently well managed. With the first retail version of DoD soon to come, it will be great if The Ville can be another popular server which players who like a nice fair, yet hard played game can populate. I certainly intend to come back. And doubtless Mamma Jamma will too. Look forward to it.
Thanks again. Cheers!
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Bright Red Nipples Registered User
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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If only we had more players like ComradeNachaev on our servers I might be able to actually play a map or 2 without having to deal with llamas. Thx for the addaboy. I hope to see you both in game before too long. _________________
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Smegma Ville Supporter
Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Location: Ryder Lake,BC Guild:<eVa>FM Posts: 685
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:44 am Post subject: |
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first off i love playing at the ville and getting banned would kill me.plus tvb shaft is a buddy and he would raz me hard.I just like to play but i have one question.is it considered spawn killing when u throw grenades at the last allie or axis flag on avalanche before your final assault.I have seen this done all the time and i have done it to only because thats what i have seen when learning how to play years ago.if it is a no no then i will stop. thanks for your time guys DOD ROCKS |
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Bright Red Nipples Registered User
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 10:02 am Post subject: |
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That is not considered spawn camping. When you have a visible view of the respawn and shoot or throw grenades into respawn it is considered respawn camping. From the location you are refering to there is no way to lob a grenade into respawn.
The only big problem we seem to have is on Anzio for some reason. It seems to have llamas on almost every game. _________________
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Paddyjack Registered User
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Bright Red Nipples wrote: | That is not considered spawn camping. When you have a visible view of the respawn and shoot or throw grenades into respawn it is considered respawn camping. From the location you are refering to there is no way to lob a grenade into respawn.
The only big problem we seem to have is on Anzio for some reason. It seems to have llamas on almost every game. |
Not exactly true here BRN. Throwing grenades at the last Allie's flag in Avalanche may not be spawn camping but it is frowned upon because of the infamous Avalanche's exploit. This map is already much axis-oriented without adding this exploit
So Smegma, try not to throw grenades down that street. It is ok for the last flag of the axis though. DIE AXIS!! _________________ PJ --- ancient IDIOT with a rusty CROWBAR....
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