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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if anything u want to ask go and try to pm one of the admin or council here maybe they could help u out with some info on this? And if we all want to get together sometime for some cs just pm and i'll see what i can do about coming to join u there
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hearing from different sides of opinions, I guess CS would be out of the question. But IF TheVille ever iniziates a CS Server, I wanna be there.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stevo wrote:
CS is good. The fact that you have to wait to repawn makes you want to live and use more skill. It would be nice to see a CS server on TheVille. It would probably bring in more people to TheVille.


Bah...the people left are all CAMPERS and the rest have to wait for a freaking 5 minutes before the game starts again.....


And CS attracts the worst group of players andtheir attitudes....

....immature adolescent who do nothing but swear, flame, and scan the internet for the latest h4x.

In general gamers in

NS - people that love being ordered around and working together
TFC - people that like to fool around
DoD - people that usually play serious
CS - flaming idiots
Ricochet - idiots in general
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Violent Pacifist wrote:
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Those of you that say no, have you ever actually played CS on a GOOD server? Or played CS at all? Give it a shot


Play the damn game before you start tearing it to pieces. I've found a good server (people over-react sometimes, but otherwise good), where cheaters are null.


I've played the damn game it sux.Get killed by h4x or not you die and sit there till the round ends yay how fun is that
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it, just because some people hate the game means that we can't have it? I personally couldn't care less if we have an NS or DOD server or two even though I can't play them. We have 8 servers right now, and three TFC servers. Two of them are almost always empty except for the bots. Would you guys really care that much if some of us wanted to play CS on one of those servers? It isn't like you guys are using the servers and would have to sacrifice your TFC time so that we can play. Everyone can go on playing whatever they want, and the people that want to play CS could do so as well.

Now of course I don't know if it is even possible, or if one of our illustrious server owners would dedicate his server to CS, but if it is possible than we should go for it. Just because you hate the game doesn't mean you should ruin it for everyone else.

I think we have heard the arguments for CS and that it really wouldn't be that big of a problem. I would love to have a good CS server that I know I can count on. The main reason I don't really play the game is that I don't know any good servers. Maybe we should put up a vote for this, and if there are enough people who would play on the server it might be worthwhile.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monk has a point.

CS isnt my favorite mod, but IF it were here Id probably play on occasion
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Counter-strike would be cool. I feel so specail i'm on somebody's sig
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not that we shouldn't have it because we hate it, its because it will attract the worst kind of people to theville. Personally I think we have enough problems to take care of without ass holes from the CS world pouring into our realm. It would be bad for everyone's intermember relationship. I would just rather not see the quality of theville fall to such a state. Thats the reason why I think we shouldn't have a CS server.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monk has an excellent point. Certian servers on The Ville rarely ever have players. (Specifically I'm thinking about Warhammer's secondary NS server. Does ANYONE ever get on there?) So if certian admins who have servers that rarely get used by players, maybe deticating one to CS (for at least a while) wouldn't be a terrible idea.

Of course, the admins have so much work to go through if they're going to add a new game. There's cheaters to deal with, stats to set up, perhaps a new forum... I'd understand completely if the admins didn't want to start a CS server just becuase it'd be to much work to start supoprting another HL mod.

My primary problem with CS has always been the general bad attutude of the players. This would be much less of a problem on the Ville, I think. I just have one suggestion.... if a CS server ever DOES appear on the Ville, it should be passworded. At least for a while. The password would be posted on the forums, or maybe through PMs from the admins. This would limit the obligatory llamas and haxors that appear on so many CS servers.

Now I'm no admin so none of this is my decsion. But I AM a Villun so I have the right to make observations.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually Dead has a good idea there
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally like CS. There are a lot of things I dislike about CS, though.

First, it is hard if not impossible to play CS on a server with more than 10 players with a 56k connection speed. Even on a server with about 4 players, I still get bad lag spikes, especially on a large, very detailed map like es_oilrig.

Second, I don't like huge maps with a lot of hiding places for people to camp where you have to look at 10 different places at once. I like to play on a LAN game with about 4 players with people I know well on a small map with no objective, although I do like to plant or defuse a bomb every once in a while.

Third, a lot of the people that play CS are not friendly and, in some cases, are asses. Some people are just cheaters that take the fun out of the game and there are campers and people who try to team up against the new players that are easy to kill.

There are a lot of things I like about CS, though. If you play on a good server with the right people, the game is very fun. I also like to play on a 4 player LAN game with people I know. If there are 3 other good players, you don't have to wait long to respawn. I lake to play these games on small maps with no objective other than kill the enemies like paintball and spr (or the kind of maps I make).

If you want to try some of these kind of maps, try mine at http://www.geocities.com/steeveng2000 and see how you like them on a 4 player LAN game. I think Cs_P90_paintball is the best example of one of these.

This is my opinion about CS (now that I have more time). I think they should make one of the existing TFC or NS servers a CS server and see how it works, and for you who have never tried it, give it a try.

Some other comments I have:
1)It isn't necessarily true that people only use certain weapons. I use every weapon in the game according to what I am going to be doing and how much money I have.
2)I think camping should be fair. Isn't that realistic?

Just my opinions.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually Dead wrote:
Monk has an excellent point. Certian servers on The Ville rarely ever have players. (Specifically I'm thinking about Warhammer's secondary NS server. Does ANYONE ever get on there?)


Custom maps do that to any Half Life server. But I'm sure people
here have seen me at least pop in on it once or twice.

This may expose me as being biased, but I think adding Counterstrike
to TheVille would bring EXACTLY the kind of people to TheVille we
DON'T need, if you catch my hint.

I've had some real good TFC, NS, and DoD games, because of
having good players (and by that I mean people with decent
attitudes, and nothing at all to do with skill level), but never with
CS.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would like to see it my only reason being that we could actract a larger group of people to theville and i bet some of them would spill over into the other mods. unfortunatly for the first month or 2 there would be alot more work done with llamas untill most of them were banned.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are definitely right about the llamas. I would hate to see the mod bring us more problems. That is the biggest reason I never really played CS much even though I think it is a great game. I would just love to have a server I could count on to be llama free. Of course this would require a big effort on the admins part, and a big contribution from someone willing to dedicate the server necessary to run the game. I wish I could help in some way, but I just don't have the hardware.

I still think that this is a possibility, but it is entirely up to the admins.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ville 8 NS server is almost not empty. The main ville site has a script error that wont read the plyrs unless you click on the link you can see who is plying.

It is becoming a very popular, in the NS community, custom NS server (alot of irc chat about it too ).

As for CS I have no opinion. I just ply it at lan parties on occasion.


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