[ToRaK]

Let's not get into another scripts debate...I promise to not discuss it if you promise not to mention in the same sentence as cheat.

There really is a cap to how good you can get a class. You are limited by things like your ping and your hardware. You are also limited by the time that you can spend playing (which is rare now that I'm in a difficult school ). Saying that there is no cap is like saying you could be as good as any top league player if you wanted to. This simply is not true, most likely none of us will turn out to be the next Award, the next Paul Bunyan, the next Afx. You can go a long way - but its very hard to get all the way to the top.

I don't think many people customize their game with the sole intent of getting better. Mostly when we change something, it's because we think it is cool. It's an added bonus if I can see better with a non default crosshair. Or that I can run faster using a bhop script. Or that I can jump a little bit higher with a rocket jump script. It's like wow, we are going places we've never been before. Plus the valve standard stuff is so very drab looking. Installed a custom map before? Of course, because it changes things up.

No matter what though, it really comes down to how much skill/practice you put it to it. True you can get little improvements by tweaking the hell out of your settings, but it will do nothing if you can't aim. I guess you could always download ogc - but short of that any customization/modifcation you do still requires your skill for it to be at all effective.

In conclusion, I think that we should keep our cutting little comments to ourselves. They will do nothing but get us into a debate which we don't need to have again. If after reading this post and you do not see the customizers / scripters side of the arguement then you will never see it and should allow us to have our fun while you have your fun. Don't take this the wrong way.
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I dealt with some hws where they won't even let me touch the ground. There were some odd situations where I would jump strafe side-to-side and it felt as if I was captured in the air by their AC fire. It was weird too

I wondered if there were any tricks to it but I guess it is just a matter of sticking to your nmes and having a good ping rate. Even though I'm not the greatest player I can still manage to do pretty decent.

And as for scripts this topic will be a prolong debate. This topic will never end IMHO. Scripts these days are coming out so fast and being sported by a lot of the top, leet players. I've had my time arguing why scripts were dumb, but now I have come to a point where I throw my hands up. You will never stop a person from sporting the scripts because they have their reasons and so do you. There are so many out there: nade, reload, comms, quick switch, spy warning, and so forth.

I've come to a point where I accepted script whores or minimal script whore users hehe. Just because they use them doesn't mean they are ruining the game. There are so many people here at theville who are good people and script. Theville is a community of gamers who should embrace all, and why should we create a spectrum of those who script vs those who do not script. Creating that will just ruin a community man and that's something we shouldn't do. BUT WE SHOULD ALIENATE teh friggin cheaters!!! Mua ha ha ha ha hee har ho ho ho!!!

As for cheats, now that is where I take things personal. There is nothing more ghey then having a friggin hacker playing TFC. I agree cheats can correlate to Power's analogy on drugs used to boost up performance. It isn't fair and that will really, really ruin a game. Why do you think league admins will ban a whole clan if they catch a player sporting the OGC. But I think they used do that I'm not sure, or now they just ban the player from TFC
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Yes any of us could be the next top player.....the problem is time. Some people have nothing but time to just sit around and play for thousands of hours to get there....that doesn't mean you're capped....you're advancement would just be alot slower than someone who plays 10 times more than you, and has been playing since the beginning.

If you say there is a limit, and a cap, and you'll never be as good as someone else...then you won't be, and you should just give up trying...who of the greats in any aspect of life ever said "there's a cap, those other guys are too good, they're skill is unattainable because they're gods and for some reason they got good"

I'll tell you the reason tey are good, because they wanted it, they wanted it so bad they just did it.

As for addons and custom things, you don't need them, sure they are cool, and I've got nothing against customizing your display or tweaking your settings, but I never used any.

As for scripts, I wasn't debating them or knocking them in this instance...and I included them in the same line as cheats because both affect gameplay....cheats just in a much larger and more active scale....Buuuuutt...Like I previously said, if you've got them and you use them, I'm not asking you to step forward and announce it, rather...take them all off and play with a fresh installation of Half-Life TFC for a month or so, just bare bones nothing, you can even change your name if you're afraid people might see you not playing as well....But Like I said, play like that for a while and you will increase your skill...

What are records anyways? Records are made to be broken. There is always room for improvement, always push the limits.
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[Darth.Inf]

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I think with the right group playing as a team will get you good scores if thats what your after.
I just play to have fun myself.

If you go in as a team the cheats dont help much the way i see it.

Each class has its weaknesses. Just change classes when you encounter a good defender/attacker. Or work your team togather to cover each others weakness.

nuff said

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The AC is a hitscan weapon? So the colored trails are just eye-candy,
then?
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[Darth.Inf]

blame it on the coding

[Greebo]

[Bada Bing]

Very good point Torak you are limited by your ping and hardware.When you have even small amounts of lag against someone who doesn't if they are good they are going to spank you plain and simple
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