[Stevo]

I think I have particlefx set to 1 and I adjusted rates to reduce lag. I do have a script that puts an X on the map when I shoot. I also have custom crosshairs. Those types of things have not been considered exploits in the past.

Getting rid of grass requires editing the WAD files I think. The grass is there for a reason, and it should be illegal to get rid of...
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[Simpleman]

Yeah having no grass would seem to be a big advantage. It also explains why and how you see me so fast. Getting rid of your suroundings would like being in a empty room with white walls. To me this would be a major exploit IMHO. I mean why play a game if you are going to motify it to the point that the game is not even reconizable ? Now that i think about this is a good reason why people can see someone buried in the grass.
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[l3eeron]

It's hard to say where to draw the line with this. The grass thing....c'mon man! You gotta be kidding me! That's an obvious exploit/cheat.

But let's think for a second.....
The only reason it isn't fair is because everyone's not doing it. So let's come up with a list of acceptable tweaks, and a list that are just plain cheating.

I think pretty much all of us who play dod often have particlefx turned off and fastswitch on. I would think those fall into the acceptable list. But binding the wheel to +attack, getting rid of grass, wall exploits, nade exploits, boosting etc should be on the "bad" list.

My whole point of this thread was to try to clarify where to draw the line. It's obvious to me, but if we had it in writing what is generally accepted, it would makes things alot more fair.
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[The Nanite]

Turning the fx off is a matter of performance. Donner is a perfect example. I can get 75fps, which is normal for me, but as soon as i get near the tank with all it's smoke my fps drops to single digits and the map becomes unplayable.
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[loka]

I don't understand how particle fix is considered an exploit if its a deterent to stop latency. Some servers shut off particle fix so you don't see snow or rain.

Many of these things like particle fix and stopsound are modifications set up within the game. They don't require a script or a special code to change them. You and I can change these settings just as much as the normal person can. The same with a crosshair or different player skins, flag skins, gun skins, are to make the game more enjoyable.

If you can download them and set them up you'd be just as happy to use them then to nag about exploit this and exploit that.

Again though these are not scripts, and theres a ton of scripts that are allowed on CAL that are not certainly illegal. The one script mentioning to get rid of grass is an exploit. I think that would have been a valid question to ask if that was an exploit.
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[Bleeding Tomato]

I think the -Grass == Wall hack it's the same thing just in a different place I don't care about the other stuff. Their just distactions and some people need to adjust rates to help compinsate for low end video cards or slow computers. Getting the most FPS, No LOSS or CHOKE and low PINGS is a must in DOD.
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[Stevo]

[Richter-]

Guys I'd like to come out and admit it right now...

I'm a closet default user...I'm so ashamed.
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[Tickles]

There there, Richter *pats back*.. It's ok.

I only use the cl_particlefx 0 and a crosshair pack and the skins frosty made.

I think removing grass and other objects in the game are exploits that weren't meant to be removed to be begin with and basically ruins the game for everyone else who use the objects IN the game, i.e sandbags, grass.. etc.. to advance.

If they wanted us to have no grass or whatever else people are removing, I'm sure they would have made it an option to us, but they did not.

[Mr>Ellroy]

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