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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

l3eeron wrote:
It irritates me that we even talk about this. All those cheesy exploits are obvious. Just play like it was supposed to be played.





What bender is doing is more than spash damage. It is an exploit and shouldn't be done
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i dont recall bender ever saying he does it.

He was asking whether it was considered an xploit or not, thats it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact, nobody is safe above ground as Bender was proving last night....! Their team fought hard to get control of the sewers, esp. Bender so that he could zooka the floors (like the steps to the second flag).

Whether it's an exploit is open to debate - anyone doing it for real, blasting the underside of a floor would take a good deal of the blast in the enclosed space...!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheHomeless wrote:
well i dont recall bender ever saying he does it.

He was asking whether it was considered an xploit or not, thats it.


You’re correct jack he didn’t say he does it. I’ve been there and seen him do it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know...It's a toss up for me. Exploit it may be but if we slap Bender because of it there are other things that people do that we could consider an exploit, or at least poor taste that would need to be slapped as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.Squirrel wrote:
JacktheHomeless wrote:
well i dont recall bender ever saying he does it.

He was asking whether it was considered an xploit or not, thats it.


You’re correct jack he didn’t say he does it. I’ve been there and seen him do it.


well thats what i get for trying to stick up for someone
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, now this got me thinking i'm an exploiter , question: Shooting the cielings anywhere, exploit? now when we're talking about the sewer on kalt, the exploit in question is shooting the floor of the wheel house rightt? not the ceiling? because i always shoot at the ceilings
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mUj0 wrote:
ok, now this got me thinking i'm an exploiter , question: Shooting the cielings anywhere, exploit? now when we're talking about the sewer on kalt, the exploit in question is shooting the floor of the wheel house rightt? not the ceiling? because i always shoot at the ceilings


That's what I'm talking about. I always shoot at ceilings/walls/doors.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if you were going with realism being the defining point on whether its an exploit or not then shooting a wall/ceiling/floor would not be because the bazookas have splash damage in real life.

they also have considerably more splash damage then the game has.

but if you mean killing someone on the otherside of a wall or ceiling then that would be an exploit in my opinion because of the fact that the wall sustains no damage in the game. Therefore in real life it would be considered that the wall is too thick for the bazooka shell to penetrate.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're inside the room/structure with someone and you shoot the ceiling that is NOT an exploit. People are referring to shooting the ceiling/floor to kill someone above/below it. That's the exploit.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, if you're BLINDLY RANDOMLY shooting at ceilings/floors/walls that would be illegal. BUT, (that's a big but ) In my oppinion, if you know there's someone there (above, below, or through the wall/door, etc - since your bullets/rockets would go through a few boards in real life) is not cheating. The exploit it when you get nailed through those certain special brick or stone walls. The guys who MG into the wheel house through two doors isn't cheating either. That's the role of the MG, lay down sustaining fire. The guys doing all the stand up MGing w/the sensitive mouse is a pretty obvious exploit.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you're inside the room/structure with someone and you shoot the ceiling that is NOT an exploit. People are referring to shooting the ceiling/floor to kill someone above/below it. That's the exploit.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

99% of all steam servers will ban you instantly if you exploit. to give leniancy seems out of touch. people should know what they do is right from wrong.

the reality is reality doesn't count in video games. of course if you want it to effect in real life get some fresh air and shoot a gun.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loka wrote:
the reality is reality doesn't count in video games.


Well said Loka.
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