how can it be

bullseye lespaul · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:35 am Post subject: how can it be

i have a question, how can someone have a constant ping of 350 or more and still be the best player on the map, when my ping gets to 100 i cant even play with all the lag, i seen someone just now with 400 ping he was like 60 13, im not acuseing im just wondering,and if not cheating how can i raise my ping! then again i am a newbie

X.O.Skeleton · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:54 am Post subject:

Im playing with 150-200ping and it doesnt lag, its just a distance thing
But if thats the ping for a player in the US I would start wondering

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PolluX · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:36 am Post subject:

It's not as bad as it sounds...sometimes you get to pings in the 500's and still not experience lag...

that and there are people who learn to play with lag and use it to their advantage. I used to be able to rule in Q3A on a dial-up pinging 600+ and lagging by about 1/2 a sec or so

I learned how to anticipate movements better and to plan shots WAY ahead.

Plus the netcode for DOD is really good and it can handle high pings while still allowing players to be competitive.

My guess is that you just had someone who was used to playing w/ that ping and learned how.
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Stevo · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject:

You can't judge someone's "lag" from just their latency. Some people may use screwed up rates to give them an advantage, but the server helps to control them. Usually it is just like what Pollux said, people are just used to playing with consistant high pings...
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Simpleman · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject:

Yeah read through any of the TPG leagues or CAL leagues as they complain about it all the time. On there end it looks normal and they don't see the lag. So it they see the lag like we do. They see it as playing normal it's just us that see them hoping all over the place.

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mUj0 · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject:

I played Half life games on dial up for six years, only this past year i havnt. and my brother and i just learned to deal with it, like Pollux said, there are ways aroudn it, and you just learn it. such as shooting ahead of em, changing rates, stuff like that...it just takes getting used to. but i do not believe they are cheating

i respect the high pingers...i was one for six years.

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crackhead_fred · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject:

They're not hackers but my reason is the same as the rest so I won't post it again. It may seem like high pingers are hackers because you may be killed after you've hid behind a wall, trust me it happens everyday to me. I also was one of those high pingers with a ping of 300-400 while playing TFC on 56k on a server located in Iceland. I wasn't too shabby either if I recall, but enough about me. Oh yeah Bullseye, you're still a cotton headed ninny mugin.

Replica · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject:

learning to conc jump on aol 56k was fun...

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Mike · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject:

ive seen some people change their rates and stuff so they lag and cant get hit, it can be used as chaeting.
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bullseye lespaul · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

bullseye lespaul · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject:

i uderstand alot of that but this guy was amazing, and there was no shootin ahead of time this guy was fast like supper fast mainly all head shots but like i said i could be wrong, i just dont under stand howwhen my ping get high at all its useless to even plays i wish i knew how to do sceenshots his name was like 2574 if hes not hackin hes the best ive ever seen!

bullseye lespaul · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

Frosty1 · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:32 am Post subject: High pingers

I have found from experience that ping maybe caused by several factors,such as distance from server,daily network traffic and connection speed.Add to the fact that Steam might try to update while you are playing and cause increased bandwidth usage.
Hacking is not always the culprit.I have found the best way to see if someone maybe "Hacking" is to observe to number of headshots from a player. Is that player "NOT" missing.Seems to know where to shot and when.And "Knows" the position of every player in game.
Ping plus the increased headshot count may indicate hacking(not always).
The problem I have high pingers, is when a player is warpiing on screen because he's lagging so badly.

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crackhead_fred · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: Re: High pingers

Stevo · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:52 am Post subject:

You don't have to post several times in a row, bullseye. Just click the edit button on an existing post and make the changes. It makes the thread a little more organized.

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