War In Iraq II

sharkbyte · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:21 am Post subject: War In Iraq II

Just wanted to say that I fully support our troops, in the Gulf, and hope this is over and they can get back to their families soon.
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Potato-VS- · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:47 pm Post subject:

Can someone please help enlighten me here, I was wondering why are all of the americans so confident that this war will have no casualties? Obviously all of the equipment and technology in the world will not protect you if you step on a mine or set off a trip wire and blow appart their whole squad... It will be a bloody war. America is not invincible, Im not going to give any examples but there have been many in the past... This is my point. No matter how much gear, training, or planning you have it will not work, in the end, against a mad man like Saddam. Hes too calm considering that there is an army that could wipe him off the face of the planet right next door. I believe that the war hasnt really even started yet. Rather it is more like a warm up for what is to come... And incase anyone hasnt noticed, while america has evolved in technology, training, etc so HAS Saddam's army. Their not just a bunch of rag heads with rocks in their hands...

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GellyRoll · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:20 pm Post subject:

i think that sammam is dead already, but i am not sure. I want the trops to get home to their famies to because the really deserve it when they fought for our lifes.

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Fred Astaire · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 5:12 pm Post subject:

MuLiShA · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 5:33 pm Post subject:

My cousin is in Iraq as we speak.
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YourPowersAreWeakOldMan · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 10:49 pm Post subject:

One of my best friends that I've known since 2nd grade is there driving around in a tank.

He calls himself "Tank Negro" now (He's a crazy black guy making a play on Tank Girl)

Hell Saddam is probably dead, and the troops are blasting through the Iraqi countryside with no resistance. They had a thing just on the news showing 200 Iraqi armored vehicles and tanks and troops waving white sheets over their tanks and the US tanks and troop transports just drove on by passing them up completely without even slowing and radioing back for someone to come and accept their surrender because they didn't want to have to slow down and handle having them surrender. The only casualties so far were a pilot or mechanical error with one of those big C class helicopters in Kuwait.

One trip mine isn't going to explode a platoon. This isn't Vietnam. Have you even bothered to keep up with technology at all in the slightest? The body armor worn by the average US ground soldier is all encompassing, monitors vital statistics, gives reports on exact GPS location, is chemical and biological protected, and is total body armor including special boots for mines that divert blasts out the sides instead of up. A single trip mine would just knock them down and damage their armor some. Movies have long exaggerated explosives and gunfights; you can survive a car bomb at close range which a lot of times are more powerful than a landmine.
While the Iraqi army has NOT been evolving, have not gotten any more technology since 1991. They have the same crap they had back then, except for maybe some hidden bio or chem weapons, maybe even a nuke or 2 which are probably not launch ready but could probably be set off manually or remotely like a bomb. In that case there could be a mass amount of casualties, but with the chemical and biological preparedness of the US army the only major thing to really worry about is a nuke, which you can’t really protect against the blast, but the radiation could be avoided and blocked with suits. Not to mention if Iraq uses any of those the UN will have no choice but to join in due to violation of several treaties banning those weapons in particular and proving everyone wrong who swore Iraq didn't have any of those weapons. The troops also have special vehicles that drive around with their only task testing the environment for any traces of bio or chemical agents.

People are too quick to jump to conclusions when they don't have all the facts and info about both sides of an argument. In this particular conflict our army is indeed invincible, the individual soldier may be vulnerable, and suffer casualties, but there are more to take their place and they can't even touch our Ships, Mechanized divisions, and Aircraft even if they wanted to.
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Warhammer · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 11:04 pm Post subject:

FragFailure · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:10 am Post subject:

My thoughts are here. It's what I think and feel. Posting it there will remove the arguing right here in this topic so it don't get locked. If you want to complain to me about my opinions. PM me.

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Dahak · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 9:55 am Post subject:

There have been 17 casualties so far. 16 from helicopter crash and 1 from combat.

Bright Red Nipples · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:31 am Post subject:

I really need to turn the TV on and keep up with this. I turned it on last night and CNN was actually showing live coverage of tanks hauling butt across the Irag desert. I think that this media has to calm down a bit. Next thing you know they will be carrying guns too

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sharkbyte · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:22 pm Post subject:

This gave me pause. The military said they met heavy resistance in taking Umm Qasr, and see the quote below:

(+)ASSASSIN(+) · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:01 pm Post subject:

Kudos all on keeping this a civil, intelligent discussion. Frag I read what you said and I agree 100%, well done. I have no problem with peoples right to free speech, but when they are blocking buildings and major arteries for people to go about there daily tasks of work and school, then to me it moves from a relm of free speech and protest to someone pushing their views down my throat. My whole outlook on this situation is this, I support my President and my country (altho I cant stand bush to begin with) my simple reason for doing so is this, there are so many things going on that we dont even know about, if you figure the media is allowed to know 35% of whats going on (a generous guess as well I think) then you can begin to understand why we do things like this, for ours and the worlds security. Keep one thing in mind, when something drastic happens on this planet, we are always looked too, to become some sort of mediator, when we dont, people get angry at us and complain until we do, when we do, others are mad because we are an arrogant entity.

As a superpower this will always be the case, people understandably fear power, but keep in mind we usually try to use our power for the well being of everyone, not just ourselves and that tends to get lost in the fray more often than not.
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5th GHG E.G. Mine · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:40 pm Post subject:

For anyone who wants to know some good information on the protests and opinions of the demonstrators, check out this site for a well-infromed site.

MuLiShA · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 4:50 pm Post subject:

Although you see many anti-war protests and such on TV, around 70% of American citizens and now 55% of British citizens are in favor of the war.
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Potato-VS- · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 5:47 pm Post subject: