Any Woodworkers out there?

Vicoden · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:31 pm Post subject:

Sorry kaz, I would love to believe me I would, but I could never compete with the price you could get buying something mass produced. Even if I didn't charge for labor or shipping I would still be higher. Mass produced furniture shops get their material by the train load direct from the mill for a greatly reduced price then what I can buy it for from a lumber yard. I don't really have a business per say, its mostly word of mouth family, friends and such. Heck, every girlfriend I ever had got something built for her from me for a birthday or Christmas. What makes it fun, is I design each piece however I or the customer wants it, which makes each project a one of a kind. I also use woods such as cherry, ipe and other rare woods because I am so sick of the over used oak and pine furniture that everyone else uses. (not all, but still way too many)

Simpleman · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:37 pm Post subject:

Tool Wise I have a couple portacable routers one mounted for door details,a craftsman bandsaw, senco finsh nailer,staplers narrow and wide,senco pin nailer,60 gallon craftsman air compressor, all kinds of hand tools to many to list 10 hp tablesaw,3hp drill press, corrigated nailer ,palm sanders, belt sanders, table top belt sander and I know there is more but drawing a blank o'well anyways I have a few wood working tools it's fun to make your own furniture. Just watch the fingers they can come up missing if your not careful.

ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:45 pm Post subject:

eye awr a karpenter.

Whats better is I get to work with some of the finest carpenters around.
I'm not one of them.

we build high end homes and with that comes all kind of different and challenging tasks. I have access to all kinds of tools besides owning a bunch myself. I mostly run work now and do not get my hands involved too much.

the tools are rusting away.

As far as a hobby I only do what I have to around the house

But if we need a new stereo cabinet or counters or kitchen cabinets...no problem.

I would bet I have way more nail guns than JD has real ones.
Hot tip: Airy has the contractor pin and crown stapler for under a 100 bucks! they are bullet proof and look cool in a hot copper finish.

Dewalt double bevel sliding saw.
planers floor and hand held.
I have a old miller falls belt sander

4x21 try to find belts for it!
Not impossible just a hassle nowadays.
plunge router
Regular router, bits, bits and more bits! collets pattern bits I even ran a oggie bit around the fachia of my house! My friends thougt I was crazy! but it looks cool.

I have a 8" throat hand held band saw. good for cutting corbals on big beams.
Two air compressors, 50 thousand clamps of all varieties. No not the good german kind.

spring clamps...they are worth every dime!
My favorites for odd clamping are the ring clamps that are like cresents. theyhave there own pliers and are good for holding cornors together.or crown miters plus lots more.
My latest favorite tools are the 18 volt dewalts. they are the handiest things to have.

go anywhere cut drill anything and a nice flashlight too

so what kind of squares do you have? I have starratt tri square, big and small very nice and I have the little bitty t square that slides both directions

not many have that one. and I have the starrat tramel points with the 3/8ths bar. It has two secitons and will swing a 36 inch circle. for bigger ones they can be connected to piecies of wood to any size. they are cool the tops are knurled and spin for a smooth swing.

lets see the little cornor chisel comes in handy

I dont have a table saw at home the company so many and they are always available plus they are nice ones with beismyier (spelling?) fences. I just stay late or cut it during lunch and cut anything I want.

Oh lets not forget the 4inch angle grinder. that thing is a life saver! Mines the dewalt.
Palm sander by makita . random orbital by dewalt (7 hole)
OHH OHH I just got the Porta cable bisquit jointer! it rocks. it adjusts just about to any angle and just cuts away!

It is hard to list it all. Im losing touch

Oh I have a 3.5 inch datto blade on my skill saw! it is for cutting roofs

it is wicked and is scary as hell to operate. I have the pozi beam cutter on another skilsaw and with the 16 inch makita beam saw and the 12 inch skill I can cut any roof. oh the 8 1/4 has a swing table on it.

PLus in the end I still use my rigging axe! It scares the heck out of the finish carpenters....heheehee

And for all those who want to ruin a thread about woodworking please shut up.

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Vicoden · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:11 pm Post subject:

Aww come on roof everyone knows the best carpenters are right here in the midwest

As far as my tools go, Everything from rough to finish tools hand and power. My prized tool is my Jet hollow chisel mortiser. I don't buy any certain brand, I just try to by the best tool I can find regardless of the manufacturer. I rough custom homes for a living LOCAL #344!!!, but am slowly building up my roughing tools to hopefully go on my own one day. The union pays good, benefits are good but I really want to be my own boss and not have to hear about making the hours on a project all the time. I'm a foreman for my company, but it still isn't the same as being your own boss, I just think I would enjoy my work alot more if I didn't have to rush around trying to break a world record everytime I build a house.

Tools I got:

Senco pinner
Bostich Finish gun
Atro Framing nailer
Porter Cable roofing nailer and saws all and router
Makita circular saw and dual compound sliding 10" mitre box
Dewalt 14.4 cordless drill, pancake compressor, 10" table saw, biscuit joiner and of course job radio (also charges drill battries)
100's of bits and chisels
Hilti hammer drill
Milwaukee 1/2" corded drill
Krieg Jig (awesome tool)
Jet hollow chisel mortiser
Swanson speed sqaure
Stabila Levels 2' - 6'
Bosch Jig saw

If any of you guys have a dovetail jig for a router, which do you have and how do you like it. I have no idea which one to buy, if you guys can keep a secret I want to dovetail my base moulding in my house @ the outside corners, because I have never seen that before and think it will look neat. I plan on using a 1 x 6 for the baseboard although it will be quite expensive if I wanna use cherry or any hardwood for that matter.

ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:29 pm Post subject:

I dont know about that....midwest....whats out there ??? haha jk

Carpenters are the same all over. dirty dusty and willing to tell you all about their tools and what they have their eye on

The unions are all but dead here in san diego. they are still around for large goverment jobs and such but the housing market is a free for all.

That is why I like the high end. they have the money and the desire to have a man work on a single piece of wood all day.

Here is the link to some of our projects.

http://www.wardellbuilders.com/
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John Doe · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:43 pm Post subject:

Do you have 24 nail guns Roofcutter? If so you beat me

LOL, J/K ! I dont believe I will ever indicate how many toys I own of the firearm nature. Dont wanna have all these punks coming to my door in the middle of the night......Of course if they do I have enough to hold them off without ever having to reload.

JD
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Vicoden · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:46 pm Post subject:

Wow, I would love to work on projects like those. I would be up all night just thinking about what I would be doing the next day. I could talk about construction and tools all day long, I think I bore most of my g/f's away because they have no idea what I am talking about half of the time. Oh well.

Unions in the midwest are pretty strong, over the last couple years we have taken back alot of the residential market, from like 3% to now about 25%. I am not some big union junky, I don't always vote the way they think I should and such, but like I said I can't complain too much about pay or benefits, they take pretty good care of us. I haven't been layed off or out of work since I started in the trade back in 95'....gosh where does the time go.

JohnCarterofMars · Registered User Joined: 12 Aug 2001 Posts: 1113

OMG!!!!!!

JD your avatar is killing meh!!! PLZ someone poke my eyez out!

I nearly cut my thumb off with a 2 and a half horse power router and a 1/4" rabbit bit. Is that considered wood working skillz? hmmmmm

actuall I build frames for art and when I first started the biz I foolishly trapped a piece of wood between the fence and the router bit.... this was before I read the instructions. fortunately my opposable digit survived and I now read all instructions for wood working impliments.

My fav part is the finishing part. thats where you can reall make a piece of natural wood look gorgeous!
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ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:00 pm Post subject:

well I dont know what the high end market is like back there but Im sure they have areas that are upper end. I would go find them and do whatever you need to get in the door. In the long run you will never be sorry. Or I should say for me it has been a great ride, and would recommend it to any serious carpenter that wants to stretch his skills.
Mostly its passion for the work that will get you into and carry you forward.
If you have that you will do fine.

Close JD so very close.

JK I have 8 nail guns.

Ok vic what calculator do you use? I use the casio. it does all the trig and has lots of memory buttons. It only costs about 14 dollars and comes with a hard case. I hate those construction masters. theyare expensive and steal the fun out of knowing which buttons to punch.

ok here is a test. w/2sq+hsq/2xh what am I?
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ProudWhiteTrash · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:49 am Post subject:

Vicoden,

DO you know anything about usenet? I grew up building forms and pouring concrete, never really did any finishing sort of projects. I took a look at the usenet groups for woodworking and there's a couple very good groups with some very knowlegable and helpfull people, you should check it out. If you want or need help grab me on IM or icr and I will hook you up.
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cobra · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:21 am Post subject:

my father is great at it. he's even better at cutting pictures out of wood. he just finished a frontdoor with a nice pic of flowers and a latin text cut out of it.

he makes all the wooden parst for his rongrifles himself.

he also turns wood (sorry i don't know the proper term in english, with the machine that turns the wood around. to make tablelegs and so on.)
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Replica · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:28 am Post subject:

cobra · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:33 am Post subject:

if you don't follow woodworking at school all you will learn is how to messure something and how to use a saw.

all i know is that cutting text and pics out of wood ain't easy and asks a lot of patience.

i tried it once and not looking to do it again.

i rather saw the trees so my dad can do with them whatever he wants.
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JohnCarterofMars · Registered User Joined: 12 Aug 2001 Posts: 1113

turning the wood on a lathe. that would be the proper use in american english, at least around here.

wow that takes some skillz and courage. we have a lathe in our shop, but I haven't the guts to mess with that yet. I keep imagining the piece of wood I am working on fly off the lathe and pierce my thumb or something! LOL!

I'd love to see a pic of your dad's work cobra. is he using a router to cut the pieces or is he hand carving them?
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cobra · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:47 am Post subject:

still by hand. pics, well i still haven't got a digital camera so that would mean, going to the shop to get a film and then wait a couple of days to develop them.

will see what i can do.

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