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SpeCies Registered User
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 1:32 am Post subject: Big Foot hoaxter Dead |
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Well somuch for the folklore
SEATTLE (AP) - The man who used 16-inch feet-shaped carvings to create tracks that ignited the "Bigfoot" legend has died. He was 84.
Ray L. Wallace's family admitted his role in the creature myth after his death Nov. 26 from heart failure.
"The reality is, Bigfoot just died," his son, Michael, said.
In August 1958, a bulldozer operator who worked for Wallace's construction company in Humboldt County, Calif., found huge footprints circling and then leading away from his rig.
The Humboldt Times in Eureka, Calif., coined the term "Bigfoot" in a front-page story about the phenomenon.
Family members said Wallace asked a friend to carve the wooden 16-inch-long feet that he and his brother Wilbur wore to create the tracks.
The nation — fascinated by tales of the Himalayan Abominable Snowman — quickly bought into the notion of a homegrown version.
"The fact is there was no Bigfoot in popular consciousness before 1958. America got its own monster, its own Abominable Snowman, thanks to Ray Wallace," Mark Chorvinsky, editor of Strange magazine, told The Seattle Times.
Wallace cut a record of supposed Bigfoot sounds, printed posters of a Bigfoot sitting with other animals and provided films and photos that purported to show the creature eating elk and frogs, Chorvinsky said.
Chorvinsky believes the family's admission raises serious doubts about key "proof" of Bigfoot's existence: the so-called Patterson film, with its grainy images of an erect apelike creature striding away from the camera operated by rodeo rider Roger Patterson in 1967.
Wallace said he told Patterson where to spot a Bigfoot near Bluff Creek, Calif., Chorvinsky recalled. "Ray told me that the Patterson film was a hoax, and he knew who was in the suit."
Michael Wallace said his father called the Patterson film "a fake" but claimed he'd had nothing to do with it. But he said his mother admitted she had been photographed in a Bigfoot suit, and that his father "had several people he used in his movies."
The disclosure is not fazing others who study such creatures.
Jeff Meldrum, an associate professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University, says he has casts of 40 to 50 footprints he believes were made by authentic unknown primates.
"To suggest all these are explained by simple carved feet strapped to boots just doesn't wash," Meldrum said, noting 19th century accounts of such a creature.
Chorvinsky says those early reports were mistakes, myths or hoaxes. _________________ http://www.nosmacktards.com |
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_-=Did It Hurt=-_ Server Admin
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 2:10 am Post subject: |
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A Bigfoot lives with me and has size 14 shoes.
Ever trip over a size 14 shoe? haha _________________
Cool Sig by KRG. Thx
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 2:11 am Post subject: |
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_-=Did It Hurt=-_ wrote: | A Bigfoot lives with me and has size 14 shoes.
Ever trip over a size 14 shoe? haha |
there is a 7ft second year photgraphy student here with size 17's lol, he is beasty huge _________________ |
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Replica Server Admin
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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when i first read the subject i thoguht you mean THE " one big hoax(ter)" was dead... GASP! but its good to see she has posted to help us make sure she is alive _________________ |
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Thom Yorke Obliterator Registered User
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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This is such a non-story that it's funny. Bigfoot researchers have known that Ray Wallace was full of s**t for the past 30-40 years. This is like Keith Richards dying and his family revealing that he had used drugs during his lifetime. It's not any great revelation.
Does anyone still believe in Bigfoot anyway? _________________ I'm not internationally known, but I'm known to rock the microphone. |
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Jasun Registered User
Joined: 06 Jan 2002 Location: Batavia, NY Posts: 129
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah ive seen some people from kentucky before.. so i beleive in bigfoot
(this is the part where i run and hide) _________________
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SpeCies Registered User
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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TYO, you have to be kidding me? Keith Richards using drugs No way! Next your going too tell me that Jim Morrison did also. I doubt this..
LOL!!!!! I know what you mean. But let's face it, these thing's like the Bigfoot fable have carried on throughout the worlds history. I know it's crazy, but it keep's our imaginations going does'nt it.
Have you heard about the Heavy Weapons guy who came from the stars ? They thought he was just a fairy tale also.....
Thom Yorke Obliterator wrote: | This is such a non-story that it's funny. Bigfoot researchers have known that Ray Wallace was full of s**t for the past 30-40 years. This is like Keith Richards dying and his family revealing that he had used drugs during his lifetime. It's not any great revelation.
Does anyone still believe in Bigfoot anyway? |
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SpeCies Registered User
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Oh no! I would never post anything like that Gizanked if it was not fact. I hope nothing tragic like that happens too anyone here
Gizanked wrote: | when i first read the subject i thoguht you mean THE " one big hoax(ter)" was dead... GASP! but its good to see she has posted to help us make sure she is alive |
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 11:27 am Post subject: |
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_-=Did It Hurt=-_ wrote: | A Bigfoot lives with me and has size 14 shoes.
Ever trip over a size 14 shoe? haha |
Anyone ever trip on a shoe that was almost half your shoe size _________________
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three_gunn Registered User
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 6:19 am Post subject: |
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...i dont care what the papers say. 'harry and the hendersons' was based on a true story. |
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SpeCies Registered User
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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I am glad that I am not the only one who knows that Three_Gun, I was at a keg party one night a longtime ago in the middle of Bum*uck egypt that these bikers were having. I decided too go off with this girl that I just met
when we came across this thing that was just standing there along this creek bed. As we approached closer the thing snorted and then ran like some bat out of hell. We decided too head back to the fire.. It could of been a number of thing's I know, but at that time I had otherthing's on my mind
three_gunn -VS- wrote: | ...i dont care what the papers say. 'harry and the hendersons' was based on a true story. |
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