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Dann0
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 2:54 pm    Post subject: Lag??? Reply with quote

For those of you who complain about lag:

Before you start b**tching about the lag on the servers remember this:

Most of these servers are on (at least) t1's wich are guarenteed minimun upload/download speeds and are monitored 24/7 for QOS (Quality of Service) So if problems occur they are fixed before you even notice it.

If you are the only one on a server getting some lag/bad ping ITS NOT THE SERVER!!! Check your own connection!!! Call your provider! Stop complaining to everyone on the server. If you go to another server you will most likely still get a bad ping.

Try doing a traceroute to the server and it will tell you where the bottleneck is occuring.

If you need help feel free to post in the forums or contact one of us admins...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may clear up a couple of issues as far as lag is concerned. http://tfc.atdt911.com/ping.shtml#tcp . Sometimes it could be a bad hub on the way to the server. I know when I speak up about lag it's usually meant as a general comment and not based towards the server itself.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TV1:
Quote:
Hop 1 IP 192.168.254.254 Time : 0
Hop 2 IP 64.252.32.1 Time : 28
Hop 3 IP 204.60.203.129 Time : 27
Hop 4 IP 204.60.219.33 Time : 28
Hop 5 IP 151.164.89.41 Time : 41
Hop 6 IP 151.164.243.26 Time : 41
Hop 7 IP 151.164.242.198 Time : 55
Hop 8 IP 151.164.89.254 Time : 41
Hop 9 IP 154.54.2.197 Time : 41
Hop 10 IP 66.28.4.22 Time : 42
Hop 11 IP 66.28.4.82 Time : 28
Hop 12 IP 66.28.4.14 Time : 41
Hop 13 IP 66.28.4.86 Time : 69
Hop 14 IP 66.250.8.110 Time : 82
Hop 15 IP 66.250.5.126 Time : 82
Hop 16 IP 209.242.19.166 Time : 97
Hop 17 IP 209.242.10.129 Time : 96
Hop 18 IP 209.242.10.135 Time : 82


Tor's server:
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Hop 1 IP 192.168.254.254 Time : 0
Hop 2 IP 64.252.32.1 Time : 28
Hop 3 IP 204.60.203.129 Time : 13
Hop 4 IP 204.60.219.33 Time : 28
Hop 5 IP 151.164.89.41 Time : 41
Hop 6 IP 151.164.243.26 Time : 41
Hop 7 IP 151.164.243.201 Time : 41
Hop 8 IP 151.164.243.17 Time : 41
Hop 9 IP 144.223.26.201 Time : 28
Hop 10 IP 144.232.13.33 Time : 41
Hop 11 IP 144.232.7.110 Time : 41
Hop 12 IP 129.250.9.173 Time : 41
Hop 13 IP 129.250.2.33 Time : 42
Hop 14 IP 129.250.5.99 Time : 41
Hop 15 IP 129.250.2.63 Time : 55
Hop 16 IP 129.250.26.97 Time : 55
Hop 17 IP 168.143.105.22 Time : 55
Hop 18 IP 146.20.83.189 Time : 55


Same ping leaving my ISP's router
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really doesnt bother me when people speak up on the lag, its those who are Loud and Rude and wont shut up about it. They need to realize all the work we put into these servers to keep em lag free... Hope you dont catch the admin who set the server up, cause then your asking for a beating.



If you complain about the lag and your nice about it, Everybody will be more than happy to help you IE:

Nice:
Player "Anyone else notice the lag?"
Admin "None here, try doing this....."

Not Nice:

Player "F**K this laggy a** Server
(Often repeated several times)
Player "This is the laggiest server ever"
Admin "GoodBye Player"

Cant tell you how many times i have seen this, its called Have some common Courtesy Please!!!

Sorry for ranting, It just gets to me sometimes.
Nice link BRN it explains alot..
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I complain about lag, but it's complaining about my stupid isp (not the server at all). Sorry if my grumbling bothers you
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesnt bother me at all Mongoose. You were very nice when you mentioned it. Its not directed at anyone.. Most of us regs know its our ISP. Espically if you have att cable.

Another thing to keep in mind is Geographic Location of the servers and you plays a big part in lag.. Ask bobbins about that. The closer you are the better ping you have, the farther away you are the ping/lag will get worse.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danno wrote:
Doesnt bother me at all Mongoose. You were very nice when you mentioned it.

Well it bothers me!! Just stfu already Goose, tee hee hee. J/K man

Danno wrote:
Another thing to keep in mind is Geographic Location of the servers and you plays a big part in lag.. Ask bobbins about that. The closer you are the better ping you have, the farther away you are the ping/lag will get worse.

Unless I have a server in Las Vegas and it's routing me out of state and then coming back to Las Vegas. I've seen that happen too.

BTW, no problem with the link. I hope some people can benefit from it, I know I have.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most cases it is your own moronic isp. I did a trace on my dls to one of the servers i ply at in portland area where i live. One day it sent me to la then to chicago before the northeast then to the server. Ping was 250 and I could have walked to the server.

LOL

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danno wrote:


Another thing to keep in mind is Geographic Location of the servers and you plays a big part in lag.. Ask bobbins about that. The closer you are the better ping you have, the farther away you are the ping/lag will get worse.


Everybody around here is from America. Some from the UK and i'm from Belgium (the only one j/k) so i must be the one that needs to connect from the most far away place and i only ping between 125 to 150. Most off you guys ping the same or even worse. It all has to do with the glitches that occure while connecting. And another big problem off lag are your backgroundprograms that are running on your computer without that you even notice it.

Some of hese programs can be shut down just by going to your start menu and choose execute. then type in msconfig and go to the tab called start up (boot,.....i don't know how it's called in english) there you can uncheck a lot off programs that start up but that you actually almost never need.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People only complain about lag because people want to let out their pent-up frustration at sucking in-game so much.

Dont let it get to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I complain about my lag all the time when I play on TV1. I get lag when too many people come on TV1. I try to cope with it but I freeze so much people get easy kills of me which is very irritating. I mean TV1, formerly known as avantiville, is the map that theville is based off of. I mean that's where I practically met everyone at! And it sucks when you can't frag along with your pals in a map that means genuine to you. I leave the server when I'm about to blow up and come back later when I feel it's alright. But as for the other servers I don't get lag, but on TV1 I get lag the most.

I don't get lag on TV3, but I do get lag on TV2 which is because of Neo TF. Lag ruins my/peoples game. I mean your right about how people should do a tracer route prior to complaining, because it could be your connection and so forth.

Even though TV1 is like my most favorite server the lag I get ruins my game. I came to the friggin ville because of avantiville. And if you look now, you barley see people playing on avantiville anymore which makes me wonder why.

I don't play on TV1 anymore unless there are a few people. I play on TV3 now because I don't get freezing lag like I do on TV1. Good stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


And for all of you lucky Broadband customers checkout this site...

Awesome Tips & Tricks to get the best bang out of your connection for free. Download their free optimizer after you use their online connection analyzer.


http://www.speedguide.net
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part can be server load (cpu memory drives). All hopes the ville supports program can give em a bigger cpu lol.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The speedguide thing was useful, but i wasn't sure what exactly all the things meant. Anybody know of a glossary or something online?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danno wrote:
Espically if you have att cable.


AT&T's choices for routing are... questionable at best. =p

Otherwise I love em. But now they're being sold and I'm sure
it'll get worse.
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