The Passion of the Christ

Kahlan Amnell · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject: The Passion of the Christ

basically, just want to get your opinions. personally, I find it stupid that people think that there will be a bunch of Hitler-wannabes out to get the Jews because of the supposed anti-semetic message within the movie. links below are to articles about the movie.... if you want more info. also, how many are planning to go see it on wed? or soon thereafter? i know i will.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040215/en_afp/lifestyle_us_film_gibson_040215211540
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040222/ts_nm/leisure_passion_dc_5

Azrael · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:58 pm Post subject:

Honestly, sane people would never use a film as a reasoning for hatred. However, we know that those who would be ruled by their hatred on reasons as simple as skin color and language are often not classified as sane people. If this movie accurately portrays what was written in the Bible, then there will be nothing in it we haven't seen on an Easter Sunday in church when we were kids. I think the only new and interesting part will be that it is in the languages of the people who actually lived that time period. At least for me, that would be the real drawing power of the movie, but then as a linguist, I'm slightly biased.

Anyone who would profess to be a Christian should be able to understand the meaning of the phrase "God's Will", AKA, Fate. If it was fated that Jesus die, then it was going to happen, Jews or not. It could just as easily have been the Romans who got the historical backlash from this one simple act, which, according to all written Christian Texts, was going to happen no matter what anyone wanted. As far as I care to place blame, I place it one the Space monkey Anteaters, since they didn't come down and save Jesus with their vastly superior intelligence and technology. If anyone couldn't tell, that was sarcasm, which is how I choose to respond to people too dimwitted to understand the greater meanings and messages surrounding religious and/or historical events.

Religion will always be used as an excuse for one man to burn down anothers house. That is because it is so easy to use, and for some reason never seems to get old. The funny thing is that in this category it has much company, greed, lust, pride, being just a few examples. It is harder to find it's cohorts when it is used to build others up, to heal wounds and bring people together, which is also its power.

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ROOFCUTTER · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject:

It is strange that any christian would decide to kill anyone....for any reason.

But thats probably only me. anyone and everyone can justify killing someone at sometime.

so is it going to be movie hype driven or just some scum bag with a twisted mind...well probably both.
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Speaker's Xeno · Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject:

alright i ahve 2 things to say 1 u need to add the poll dont know because that gets my vote

it is almost impossible to tell what insane ppl would do because of that very reason. there are extremeists that will use any excuse to get their way whether its a book, movie, or person. it is like adding gunpowder to a cannon it will go off the thing is how bad.... i leave u wit that

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kubrick · Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:39 am Post subject:

Here's another take.

Christians believe Jesus was God, the whole father, son holy spirit trinity. So can God be killed? If God is all powerful and he was Jesus, how could anyone kill him. It doesn't say he was killed in the bible, he just says "it is finished" and then dies. If one believes in this than God/Jesus gave up his life exactly when he wanted to.

someone · Registered User Joined: 22 Aug 2001 Posts: 3

While I agree any intelligent person would not want to kill others, Mel’s father seems to be quite the nazi:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/165923p-145217c.html

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/02/19/1077072756433.html

And Mel can’t seem to say I love my dad, but he is a nazi and this is wrong.

I think mass media like movies can influence lots of people.

Teaching them that the Jews are the devil can’t really help things.

I can’t say until I see the film if that is the underlying message, but I do have to wonder.

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Secret Agent Man · Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:17 am Post subject:

you what i havent had in a while? big league chew...

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DukeNukem · Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:46 am Post subject:

I have to agree with ROOFCUTTER that the idea that because the Jewish religious leaders 2000 yrs ago chose to crucify the Lord is a basis for hatred toward Jewish people today is the height of irrationality.

I completely fail to undertand the sentiment of those that want to hate Jewish people as a result of the crucifying of Jesus:

1. Jesus himself said from the cross, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." [Luke 23:34] If the perfect God-man pronounced forgiveness upon them (all people) then what hubris for any of us to fail to forgive them.

2. Jesus and the apostles were also Jews (hello people). So I supose that we should hate Jesus and the apostles also by this reasoning. The only way around this for them that I can see, is to say that it is not Jewish people (race) that they are proposing we hate, but instead they are proposing that we hate those who hold fast to the Jewish religion - so see point 1!

3. Jesus himself said that he came to die for the sins of the world (oh yeah 'cept Jewish people who put him to death - NOT!!!!!). No qualifiers, it was for the WHOLE WORLD, even those who had him crucified! Again see His statement in point 1!

In case you don't understand what I am getting at, forgiveness is the core of true Christianity. To fail to forgive, although it is our inclination, is completely counter to Biblical Christianity.

Shovel me Silly · Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject:

Although it may influence some people to the wrong idea, it will not create any significant problems. There will probably be some person who beats up a jewish person after seeing the movie, but you hear stuff like that after any radically different movie. The kinds of people it will influence will be little kids who don't know any better and people who are already anti-semitic.

I think it will be a very interesting movie and although I'm not very Christian I am excited to see it.

shovelnose · Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject:

all of you make great points. i think that anyone who would engage in anti-semetic behavior is going to regardless of a movie. those people will do what they do no matter what, even if a movie came out showing how amazing the jewish race is, so the movie doesn't raise anti-jewish sentiment, it just brings in into the media spotlight more.
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