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Should Late Night with Conan O'Brian be banned from Canada?
Yes, it's aboot time we take action eh
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Yes, it's aboot time we take action eh
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No, Conan is too funny to ban
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No, I love Conan!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just knew someone would say this ;| You left out LBJ, with the whole Vietnam War. Then theres Hoover and the Great Depression. Our economy is rebounding and the transfer of power to an Iraqi government is set in June. Just because you don't agree with his decisions, it doesn't mean hes the worst. Way to drag your own political agenda in on this one.


He might not be the worst President ever, because there are some bad ones, like LBJ and Nixon. You can't really blame Hoover for the cause of the Great Depression, it was happening in every industrialized country in the world. His handling with it was very poor though. Its not so much Bush I hate as much as I hate Dick Cheney and Karl Rover, the puppetmasters of W. They are two evil guys.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROOFCUTTER wrote:
Things Ive learn from this thread.

J D may be responsible for all this



well i think roof just solved all our problems
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The point is Mr. Bush is not sponsoring the Chappelle show! He is not paying for it to air!


George W. Bush paying for something? The only thing Bush spent his own money on was when he bought his way out of the Texas Air National Guard. He probably didn't even spend his own money on that, but my point is Bush is probably the worst president America has ever had.


Well, i never expected my post on Conan and Canada tp spawn a big political debate on President Bush. But since it is in the air, I don't see how Bush can even be in the same catagorey as the "Worst Presidents" And while we are talking about worst president everyone so far has failed to mention, good ole slick Willie Clinton. Lets see he sold some of our nuclear secrets to the chinese, giving them years of technology they did not have, which could be considered treason if you think about it. The U.S.S Cole was bombed, killing American Sailors, and what did he do about it, NOTHING. He lied about CHEATING on his wife to God, his family, and to the country he is President of, and should be a role model for. He still wants so much gun control it is ridiculous. Not to mention a whole lot more. So since no one has yet mentioned Clinton i just did. #2gunfire
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, i never expected my post on Conan and Canada tp spawn a big political debate on President Bush. But since it is in the air, I don't see how Bush can even be in the same catagorey as the "Worst Presidents" And while we are talking about worst president everyone so far has failed to mention, good ole slick Willie Clinton. Lets see he sold some of our nuclear secrets to the chinese, giving them years of technology they did not have, which could be considered treason if you think about it. The U.S.S Cole was bombed, killing American Sailors, and what did he do about it, NOTHING. He lied about CHEATING on his wife to God, his family, and to the country he is President of, and should be a role model for. He still wants so much gun control it is ridiculous. Not to mention a whole lot more. So since no one has yet mentioned Clinton i just did.


Clinton should not be considered the worst president ever. Just because he cheated on his wife, that doesn't mean anything. During the Clinton administration crime went down, terrorist acts went down and the economy rose almost every single year at a very healthy rate. Clinton wasn't perfect, but he did a better job at being President than Bush is doing. If it weren't for his "sexual relations" no one would have a case for him being a horrible president. Even though he did bomb a hospital in Khartoum, Sudan thinking it was a terrorist cell or something, terrorist acts against the US declined from Bush Sr. and are now is on the rise again. The crime rate is also climbing since Bush Jr. has been in office.

Although he did nothing about the bombing of the USS Cole, Clinton's administration made the plan for attacking Afghanistan's terrorist camps and Iraq. But Bush decided to use that plan after 9/11. oops....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, i never expected my post on Conan and Canada tp spawn a big political debate on President Bush. But since it is in the air, I don't see how Bush can even be in the same catagorey as the "Worst Presidents" And while we are talking about worst president everyone so far has failed to mention, good ole slick Willie Clinton. Lets see he sold some of our nuclear secrets to the chinese, giving them years of technology they did not have, which could be considered treason if you think about it. The U.S.S Cole was bombed, killing American Sailors, and what did he do about it, NOTHING. He lied about CHEATING on his wife to God, his family, and to the country he is President of, and should be a role model for. He still wants so much gun control it is ridiculous. Not to mention a whole lot more. So since no one has yet mentioned Clinton i just did.


Clinton should not be considered the worst president ever. Just because he cheated on his wife, that doesn't mean anything. During the Clinton administration crime went down, terrorist acts went down and the economy rose almost every single year at a very healthy rate. Clinton wasn't perfect, but he did a better job at being President than Bush is doing. If it weren't for his "sexual relations" no one would have a case for him being a horrible president. Even though he did bomb a hospital in Khartoum, Sudan thinking it was a terrorist cell or something, terrorist acts against the US declined from Bush Sr. and are now is on the rise again. The crime rate is also climbing since Bush Jr. has been in office.

Although he did nothing about the bombing of the USS Cole, Clinton's administration made the plan for attacking Afghanistan's terrorist camps and Iraq. But Bush decided to use that plan after 9/11. oops....


Terrorism went up in Clinton's term than Bush Sr...I don't know where you got your info from. The economy would have been good under any adminstration with the technology boom. I'm not saying he was bad, I'm just clarifying your info. He wasn't impeached because of the sexual relations, he was impeached for lying under oath, perjury, which is not a smart thing for a president to do to his nation.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone that thinks conan should be banned from anywhere is nuts, I don't think there is anyone else as funny as him on tv right now, will ferrell rivaled that but he's gone now.... sorta..... I mean, Conan was a writer for the simpsons during it's prime, Conan is the best!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

by the way, canada sucks, we own canada!!! woooo!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm, terrorist attacks did not go down during the Clinton Administration.
check out this site for statistics Terror stats

If you look at the statistics (they have nice little graphs that will make it easier for everyone), you'll see that terror attacks actually increased during the Clinton Administration. What exactly did he do about it? He fired a couple of tomahawks and said shame on you! I'm sorry, but when you attack a U.S. Naval vessel, you're attacking U.S. soil, and it's the same story with the embassies. 9-11 was not the first attack on U.S. soil. It was however, the first time we stood up and said that we'd had enough.
and as for him cheating on his wife being nothing, I would have to agree. It was never the case that his cheating was what made him bad. It was the fact that he wouldn't admit his were what they were. Then he tried to backpedal to save his ass.

As far as your statement about crime having gone up, well, I'm afraid that you're wrong there too. If you went and checked your facts before making blanket statements, then you'd be much more likely to get your point across. Here is a nifty National violent crime trend graph since 1973. It comes from the DoJ, which keeps track of these interesting facts for all to see.


The violent crimes included are rape, robbery, aggravated and simple assault,
and homicide. The National Crime Victimization Survey redesign was implemented in 1993; the area with the lighter shading is before the redesign and the darker area after the redesign. The data before 1993 are adjusted to make them comparable with data collected since the redesign. The adjustment methods are described in Criminal Victimization 1973-95. Estimates for 1993 and beyond are based on collection year while earlier estimates are based on data year. For additional information about the methods used, see Criminal Victimization 2002.

Sources: Rape (excluding sexual assault), robbery, and assault data are from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS). Ongoing since 1972, this survey of households interviews about 80,000 persons age 12 and older in 43,000 households twice each year about their victimizations from crime. The homicide data are collected by the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) from reports from law enforcement agencies.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: CONAN, CONAN, CONAN, CONAN!! Reply with quote

I watched all but one of his shows from Cananda. It was some of his best stuff. I really liked it when Triumph The Insult Dog went to Ontario. Oh man I am laughing in my seat right now...oops I think I just went pee pee a little. Oh well, Conan is the new king of late night in my book.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know where I saw the stats on terror attacks, but those seem very right. I don't like how the graph only shows terror acts for all 8 of clinton years, not even 2 of Bush Jr's administration years and none of bush seniors years. As for the crime, it only shows up to and not including 2003. It goes way up during Bush Sr's administration years, then significantly down during Clinton's. Then between 2002 and 2003 it stops decreasing as much. Even though i stops decreasing as much, I sincerely doubt it could go down much more then that.

I might be wrong about terrorist acts, but half right about the crime stats. I wish I could find the stats I had, but I can't. If I ever do, I'll show them to you, but for now we'll just say I was possibly mis-informed. Haha

Clinton and Bush lie too much and it is a shame we've had these guys as Presidents. They've at least for the most part kept the country running.

I just hope that the first time I get to elect the President I don't have to choose the lesser of two (or three) evils.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dont get to elect the president. Sorry. The electoral college does. You get to elect electors.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can elect the President, just indirectly.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well reguardless on the worst and Best presidents, Bush is a whole lot better role model than Clinton! And for my own personal beliefs, and views, we need another president like Reagan :usa
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need a constitutional ammendment to allow for naturalized citizens to be president, then we can have Ahnold as president. Hes like reagan, an solid libertarian/conservative actor that was never considered top rate in the profession. Both served as the governors of california. There are probably other paralells but meh.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conan will not be banned. We have swearing, T and A on basic cable. I see stand up comedy shows on tv that make the same jokes about the people of Qubec. Hell I make them same jokes. This is not a issue of racism. I know the Quebecers would like to concider themselves a race but it aint gonna happen.
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